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Marvel Westerns (Silver Age)
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Okay guys, I have found a bunch of Kirby Western La Prensa and will be sharing them on here.  This one is interesting. Kid Colt 97. The U.S. UK and Spanish.  It has the original unused cover.  I have seen La Prensa with the same month in the Indica, But this is the 1st I have found with an earlier date than the U.S..  In the past there has been talk that the earlier issues may have been printed in the U.S. which is unconfirmed. This says Mexico, but who knows. Interesting book to say the least. You can see the copyright on the UK also says 1960. I know U.S.  were released earlier than the cover date. I thought it was 3 months not 4. Need to go through more from this time period.

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On 2/23/2022 at 2:27 AM, BrianR said:

Okay guys, I have found a bunch of Kirby Western La Prensa and will be sharing them on here.  This one is interesting. Kid Colt 97. The U.S. UK and Spanish.  It has the original unused cover.  I have seen La Prensa with the same month in the Indica, But this is the 1st I have found with an earlier date than the U.S..  In the past there has been talk that the earlier issues may have been printed in the U.S. which is unconfirmed. This says Mexico, but who knows. Interesting book to say the least. You can see the copyright on the UK also says 1960. I know U.S.  were released earlier than the cover date. I thought it was 3 months not 4. Need to go through more from this time period.

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Cool.

The 9d UK Price Variant and US cents copies came off the same press, at the same time. The UKPV would have gone on a boat and sailed to the UK, while the US copies were distributed to US outlets. Mikes Comic Newsstand has KCO #97 as having an 'on sale date' of the 27th of October 1960 in the US:

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That's quite a bit before the January 1961 La Prensa indicia date, albeit who knows how long before / after that date the comic actually went on sale in Mexico.

Here's another example I found online for KCO #102 which has the Mexican book a month after the US indicia date:

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Notwithstanding what the indicias say, the production dates are the key to which came first. I've not been able to find a KCO #97 with an arrival date, but they can often contradict the dates on Mikes Comic Newsstand by quite a bit. No idea on the La Prensa dates, but it's all very interesting isn't it.

 

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Here's my old UK copy:

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The book is one of the Jan~April 1961 books which have the distinction of having the UK Thorpe & Porter distribution indicia details in all copies - pence and cents:

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On 2/23/2022 at 3:43 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Cool.

The 9d UK Price Variant and US cents copies came off the same press, at the same time. The UKPV would have gone on a boat and sailed to the UK, while the US copies were distributed to US outlets. Mikes Comic Newsstand has KCO #97 as having an 'on sale date' of the 27th of October 1960 in the US:

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That's quite a bit before the January 1961 La Prensa indicia date, albeit who knows how long before / after that date the comic actually went on sale in Mexico.

Here's another example I found online for KCO #102 which has the Mexican book a month after the US indicia date:

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Notwithstanding what the indicias say, the production dates are the key to which came first. I've not been able to find a KCO #97 with an arrival date, but they can often contradict the dates on Mikes Comic Newsstand by quite a bit. No idea on the La Prensa dates, but it's all very interesting isn't it.

 

yeah thats my copy as well.  I typically see the early La prensa the same month in the indica or within a couple months after. This is the first I have seen with a date prior to. I have a UK edition Waytt Earp 29 on the way.

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On 2/24/2022 at 4:13 AM, BrianR said:

yeah thats my copy as well.  I typically see the early La prensa the same month in the indica or within a couple months after. This is the first I have seen with a date prior to. I have a UK edition Waytt Earp 29 on the way.

Splendid. Not an easy book to find, that one. It will have an undated L Miller & Co indicia, if you didn't already know. Post a pic when it arrives :)

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Here is the Wyatt Earp 29 UK edition and the matching Mexican edition.  Both lower grade, but happy to own.  Still need a better grade U.S. copy again. Took a picture of the idica just to show others what you are referring to.

On 2/25/2022 at 2:50 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Splendid. Not an easy book to find, that one. It will have an undated L Miller & Co indicia, if you didn't already know. Post a pic when it arrives :)

 

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On 4/12/2022 at 11:19 AM, jimjum12 said:

Gunsmoke Western 63 ,,,, GOD BLESS....

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)(thumbsu

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Thanks Jimbo!  The name doesn't appear on the cover which makes it even less likely that it lived in someone's imagination long enough to get recycled as a wrestler's stage name, but who knows.

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On 4/12/2022 at 11:21 AM, Sweet Lou 14 said:

Thanks Jimbo!  The name doesn't appear on the cover which makes it even less likely that it lived in someone's imagination long enough to get recycled as a wrestler's stage name, but who knows.

Still the first appearance of Hulk Hogan!

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Second Grail acquired.  I spent a few years trying to track a copy of this down as well as the Rawhide Kid 17.  The La Prensa (Mexican) Two Gun Kid 60 version once again is dated prior to the U.S.. Oct. 1962 as compared to Nov. 1962.  Couple minor editorial changes to the face and a glaring omission of the bullet on the U.S. edition. I assume it was removed due to the comic code.

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On 4/15/2022 at 10:20 PM, BrianR said:

Second Grail acquired.  I spent a few years trying to track a copy of this down as well as the Rawhide Kid 17.  The La Prensa (Mexican) Two Gun Kid 60 version once again is dated prior to the U.S.. Oct. 1962 as compared to Nov. 1962.  Couple minor editorial changes to the face and a glaring omission of the bullet on the U.S. edition. I assume it was removed due to the comic code.

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Lost a bullet but gained some gunsmoke. Love it :cloud9:

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