showcase22gr1959 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Ladies and Gentlemen. Showcase 22 CGC 9.2 CRM/OW http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch.asp%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B22%26x%3D15%26y%3D14%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_942194&id=942194 Its not even on the census yet... Was this a resuscitation of one of the 9.0s? Totally NEW copy. This is ludicrous. That looks a lot like Roulette's old 8.5 This copy has better centering, does have some resemblance, I know a lot of 8.0+ copy are miswrapped. Edited August 2, 2012 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 If there was a spine roll that would account for the better centring after pressing. All of the other tell tale markings are identical - dot in the A of lantern, wear above the W and A in "Showcase", wear on top right, wear on bottom of spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Loves Gwen Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Does the PQ affect the grade at that point? CR-OW is not as sweet as the rest of the grade... Obviously OW and better is prefer, but CR-OW is acceptable since that is the average PQ for SC22. Now, if this copy in 9.2 has white pages....rocketblast to the moon. good to know, I was wondering if Cream-ish covers were the norm... if only that were part of the census info (and not just available via the direct book ID lookup). That 9.2 SC 22 is a nice looking copy, I'd agree on the grade(I love a strong spine). The pages inside are cream to off white, the cover paper quality is unknown. CGC books do not tell you what the cover PQ is. That is why some books seem to have a lower grade, the covers are tanned quite a bit even though the book may look gorgeous. We hope that the label PQ hints at the cover PQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 If there was a spine roll that would account for the better centring after pressing. All of the other tell tale markings are identical - dot in the A of lantern, wear above the W and A in "Showcase", wear on top right, wear on bottom of spine. I can understand, books do have similar printing defects off the press (dot in the A). I know the Keller has a small printing blotch somewhere around GL feet. There is a lot of speculation, but I feel quite certain this is a new copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dscott Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 idk Roy does have a good case. Joey sells his copy about 3 weeks ago and now all of a sudden there is a new 9.2. Seems like just the right amount of time for a press and resub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Does the PQ affect the grade at that point? CR-OW is not as sweet as the rest of the grade... Obviously OW and better is prefer, but CR-OW is acceptable since that is the average PQ for SC22. Now, if this copy in 9.2 has white pages....rocketblast to the moon. good to know, I was wondering if Cream-ish covers were the norm... if only that were part of the census info (and not just available via the direct book ID lookup). That 9.2 SC 22 is a nice looking copy, I'd agree on the grade(I love a strong spine). The pages inside are cream to off white, the cover paper quality is unknown. CGC books do not tell you what the cover PQ is. That is why some books seem to have a lower grade, the covers are tanned quite a bit even though the book may look gorgeous. We hope that the label PQ hints at the cover PQ. Don, since you have mention the PQ on the cover. Certain book looks great externally as you mention and when you open them up the covers shows tanning. I understand CGC down grade book because of this defect. Edited August 2, 2012 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 idk Roy does have a good case. Joey sells his copy about 3 weeks ago and now all of a sudden there is a new 9.2. Seems like just the right amount of time for a press and resub. Here's is ruellette old copy posted in the thread. If you notice, the 8.5 shows more of GL's feet near the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddieMercede Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Ladies and Gentlemen. Showcase 22 CGC 9.2 CRM/OW http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch.asp%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B22%26x%3D15%26y%3D14%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_942194&id=942194 9.2 with that top right corner? I'm guessing without that corner wear, possibly 9.4...need to check a better scan. This book was just graded last week, 7/27. I hope CGC is not in another soft period because this book does not look 9.2. That upper right corner alone should limit it to 8.5. Is that a corner crease on the URFC ? If so kinda hard to take this book serious as a 9.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingKingKirby Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 idk Roy does have a good case. Joey sells his copy about 3 weeks ago and now all of a sudden there is a new 9.2. Seems like just the right amount of time for a press and resub. Here's is ruellette old copy posted in the thread. If you notice, the 8.5 shows more of GL's feet near the edge. I dunno. Sure look the same to me. This scan is way too blurry to know for sure, but look at the scratch above the "es" in "presents". Same on both books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddieMercede Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 idk Roy does have a good case. Joey sells his copy about 3 weeks ago and now all of a sudden there is a new 9.2. Seems like just the right amount of time for a press and resub. Here's is ruellette old copy posted in the thread. If you notice, the 8.5 shows more of GL's feet near the edge. I dunno. Sure look the same to me. This scan is way too blurry to know for sure, but look at the scratch above the "es" in "presents". Same on both books. Looks the same to me also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 How about the bottom of GL feet edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 idk Roy does have a good case. Joey sells his copy about 3 weeks ago and now all of a sudden there is a new 9.2. Seems like just the right amount of time for a press and resub. Here's is ruellette old copy posted in the thread. If you notice, the 8.5 shows more of GL's feet near the edge. I dunno. Sure look the same to me. This scan is way too blurry to know for sure, but look at the scratch above the "es" in "presents". Same on both books. Looks the same to me also. +1, pressed to perfection. actually, weak 9.2. god bless the label chasers if they put a big premium on this over the 9.0's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Since you previously owned the 8.5 Joey, can you confirm? Thanks. Edited August 2, 2012 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngh81 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 The 9.2 looks a lot like the 8.5 ... but why would the certification number on the 9.2(1056954006) be lower than the 8.5(1062352001)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderphill Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) For the most part cert numbers should go in order but sometimes they dont. Some dealers/collectors have old invoice numbers(hope i'm stating that correctly) and when they send them in the books have those serial numbers on their old submission forms. So some people have invoices with serial numbers on their old forms meanwhile they're at 109xxx Edited August 3, 2012 by ASMguyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dscott Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yea that is correct its just based off how old the form is that was used for the book. Hell I am sure one of the LCS's in my area has some real old ones since they accept CGC subs but noone does them through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderphill Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yea that is correct its just based off how old the form is that was used for the book. Hell I am sure one of the LCS's in my area has some real old ones since they accept CGC subs but noone does them through him. , im so drunk I reread my statement before yours and I butchered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngh81 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Thanks, makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Same book guys. I have a X-large monitor and note the white stress line above the "e and s" in "presents". Kinda like a fingerprint as someone mentioned before. Kinda glad I sold my 9.0 and kept my 6.0... Edited August 3, 2012 by peewee22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Comics Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Same book guys. I have a X-large monitor and note the white stress line above the "e and s" in "presents". Kinda like a fingerprint as someone mentioned before. I agree...FWIW I believe it's the same book. That's quite a bump up! Has anyone wagered as to where it'll end up? I'm guessing somewhere in the $200k range?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
