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Dishonest stuff going on in the Board Only Sales Area Forum...Sad.
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LovinTheSurfer

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I have one question about all of this. Even if the book is the same as the other. Is it not possible that it could be a 9.2 or even a 9.0 or an 8.0 for that matter. After all grading is very subjective (shrug) . One mans 9.2 maybe another mans 8.5. What I really would like to see is the CGC graders notes on this book to see what the pregrader and the final graders gave it. After all we are talking about less than 1 point in the grades

 

Just a $500 difference, that's all

 

even with a $500.00 difference Is it not possible that who ever bought or buys the book may believe it to be higher OR lower than the CGC grade of 8.5? I mean come on how many of us have bought a PGX book cracked it out and submitted it to CGC and a different grade higher or lower comes back. Just using that to make a point that grading is very subjuctive and if you asked 20 different people to look at the book in hand I would say you would get a range of 8.0-9.2. I understand that there is a big difference in price. However, if the buyer or potenial buyer agrees with the grade the Dr gave it and is completely happy . Is there anything wrong with that?

 

Its a totally different situation if he sells it as a 9.2 and the buyer is unhappy and wants to return the book. As long as the Dr. refunds the money or adjusts the price accordingly then that would be ok as well IMHO

 

You're missing the point by about a mile.

 

Muscleshark bought a pressed, slabbed 8.5 book - he cracks it, offers up it for sale as 9.2 raw, and doesn't disclose the fact that it was pressed (which I personally don't care about) and that it was previously graded as a 8.5 (which I do care about).

 

If you don't see the blatant dishonesty in that, you shouldn't be selling here on the boards either.

 

On the side of being open minded, I sold a bronze key to Jive who thought it looked much better than the assigned CGC grade and so he gave it a straight resub and it went from a CGC 9.0 to a CGC 9.6. True story.

 

On the topic of this thread, Frank just lied through his teeth without flinching a muscle. They are without a doubt the same book. That's enough for me.

 

 

In my opinion...Roy , you are a hopeless dope without a clue. Nothing more...nothing less, wow a real leader of the masses...... lol

 

Again, I will say. Grow up Frank. You can either show proof or not. You will know what will happen either way

 

Find your own "Get Rich Quick" scheme...pretty sure Danny Dupcak already tried this one and failed

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Sorry Dude, poll was run waaaaay back there, 100+ it's the same book, 15 percent crack option, a lonely 3 or so votes for it being the same.

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Sorry Dude, poll was run waaaaay back there, 100+ it's the same book, 15 percent crack option, a lonely 3 or so votes for it being the same.

 

crack option :acclaim:

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Sorry Dude, poll was run waaaaay back there, 100+ it's the same book, 15 percent crack option, a lonely 3 or so votes for it being the same.

 

crack option :acclaim:

 

Whose crack?

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homerwannabee

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I have one question about all of this. Even if the book is the same as the other. Is it not possible that it could be a 9.2 or even a 9.0 or an 8.0 for that matter. After all grading is very subjective (shrug) . One mans 9.2 maybe another mans 8.5. What I really would like to see is the CGC graders notes on this book to see what the pregrader and the final graders gave it. After all we are talking about less than 1 point in the grades

 

Just a $500 difference, that's all

 

even with a $500.00 difference Is it not possible that who ever bought or buys the book may believe it to be higher OR lower than the CGC grade of 8.5? I mean come on how many of us have bought a PGX book cracked it out and submitted it to CGC and a different grade higher or lower comes back. Just using that to make a point that grading is very subjuctive and if you asked 20 different people to look at the book in hand I would say you would get a range of 8.0-9.2. I understand that there is a big difference in price. However, if the buyer or potenial buyer agrees with the grade the Dr gave it and is completely happy . Is there anything wrong with that?

 

Its a totally different situation if he sells it as a 9.2 and the buyer is unhappy and wants to return the book. As long as the Dr. refunds the money or adjusts the price accordingly then that would be ok as well IMHO

 

You're missing the point by about a mile.

 

Muscleshark bought a pressed, slabbed 8.5 book - he cracks it, offers up it for sale as 9.2 raw, and doesn't disclose the fact that it was pressed (which I personally don't care about) and that it was previously graded as a 8.5 (which I do care about).

 

If you don't see the blatant dishonesty in that, you shouldn't be selling here on the boards either.

 

On the side of being open minded, I sold a bronze key to Jive who thought it looked much better than the assigned CGC grade and so he gave it a straight resub and it went from a CGC 9.0 to a CGC 9.6. True story.

 

On the topic of this thread, Frank just lied through his teeth without flinching a muscle. They are without a doubt the same book. That's enough for me.

 

 

In my opinion...Roy , you are a hopeless dope without a clue. Nothing more...nothing less, wow a real leader of the masses...... lol

Huh? One of the very few that sort of defends you, and you call him a hopeless dope. Hmm, interesting stuff.

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Sorry Dude, poll was run waaaaay back there, 100+ it's the same book, 15 percent crack option, a lonely 3 or so votes for it being the same.

 

crack option :acclaim:

 

Whose crack?

 

hhheeeyyy....did someone mention...crack? by the way, bought this framed beauty off billy preston on the '72 tour. awww..yeah....

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-1 on Not the same book.... I'm a dope and clicked the wrong button, I meant crack of course. doh!

 

 

lol, so there is where the two not the same book votes came from. So now it is down to one single vote of not the same book, and I have this sneaking suspicion that it was the good Dr. Frankenstein.

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I have one question about all of this. Even if the book is the same as the other. Is it not possible that it could be a 9.2 or even a 9.0 or an 8.0 for that matter. After all grading is very subjective (shrug) . One mans 9.2 maybe another mans 8.5. What I really would like to see is the CGC graders notes on this book to see what the pregrader and the final graders gave it. After all we are talking about less than 1 point in the grades

 

Just a $500 difference, that's all

 

even with a $500.00 difference Is it not possible that who ever bought or buys the book may believe it to be higher OR lower than the CGC grade of 8.5? I mean come on how many of us have bought a PGX book cracked it out and submitted it to CGC and a different grade higher or lower comes back. Just using that to make a point that grading is very subjuctive and if you asked 20 different people to look at the book in hand I would say you would get a range of 8.0-9.2. I understand that there is a big difference in price. However, if the buyer or potenial buyer agrees with the grade the Dr gave it and is completely happy . Is there anything wrong with that?

 

Its a totally different situation if he sells it as a 9.2 and the buyer is unhappy and wants to return the book. As long as the Dr. refunds the money or adjusts the price accordingly then that would be ok as well IMHO

 

You're missing the point by about a mile.

 

Muscleshark bought a pressed, slabbed 8.5 book - he cracks it, offers up it for sale as 9.2 raw, and doesn't disclose the fact that it was pressed (which I personally don't care about) and that it was previously graded as a 8.5 (which I do care about).

 

If you don't see the blatant dishonesty in that, you shouldn't be selling here on the boards either.

 

On the side of being open minded, I sold a bronze key to Jive who thought it looked much better than the assigned CGC grade and so he gave it a straight resub and it went from a CGC 9.0 to a CGC 9.6. True story.

 

On the topic of this thread, Frank just lied through his teeth without flinching a muscle. They are without a doubt the same book. That's enough for me.

 

 

In my opinion...Roy , you are a hopeless dope without a clue. Nothing more...nothing less, wow a real leader of the masses...... lol

 

Again, I will say. Grow up Frank. You can either show proof or not. You will know what will happen either way

 

Find your own "Get Rich Quick" scheme...pretty sure Danny Dupcak already tried this one and failed

 

I thought Danny was quite successful at what he does? :shrug:

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I have one question about all of this. Even if the book is the same as the other. Is it not possible that it could be a 9.2 or even a 9.0 or an 8.0 for that matter. After all grading is very subjective (shrug) . One mans 9.2 maybe another mans 8.5. What I really would like to see is the CGC graders notes on this book to see what the pregrader and the final graders gave it. After all we are talking about less than 1 point in the grades

 

Just a $500 difference, that's all

 

even with a $500.00 difference Is it not possible that who ever bought or buys the book may believe it to be higher OR lower than the CGC grade of 8.5? I mean come on how many of us have bought a PGX book cracked it out and submitted it to CGC and a different grade higher or lower comes back. Just using that to make a point that grading is very subjuctive and if you asked 20 different people to look at the book in hand I would say you would get a range of 8.0-9.2. I understand that there is a big difference in price. However, if the buyer or potenial buyer agrees with the grade the Dr gave it and is completely happy . Is there anything wrong with that?

 

Its a totally different situation if he sells it as a 9.2 and the buyer is unhappy and wants to return the book. As long as the Dr. refunds the money or adjusts the price accordingly then that would be ok as well IMHO

 

You're missing the point by about a mile.

 

Muscleshark bought a pressed, slabbed 8.5 book - he cracks it, offers up it for sale as 9.2 raw, and doesn't disclose the fact that it was pressed (which I personally don't care about) and that it was previously graded as a 8.5 (which I do care about).

 

If you don't see the blatant dishonesty in that, you shouldn't be selling here on the boards either.

 

On the side of being open minded, I sold a bronze key to Jive who thought it looked much better than the assigned CGC grade and so he gave it a straight resub and it went from a CGC 9.0 to a CGC 9.6. True story.

 

On the topic of this thread, Frank just lied through his teeth without flinching a muscle. They are without a doubt the same book. That's enough for me.

 

 

In my opinion...Roy , you are a hopeless dope without a clue. Nothing more...nothing less, wow a real leader of the masses...... lol

 

Again, I will say. Grow up Frank. You can either show proof or not. You will know what will happen either way

 

Find your own "Get Rich Quick" scheme...pretty sure Danny Dupcak already tried this one and failed

 

I thought Danny was quite successful at what he does? :shrug:

 

but did it end well? Does he have a better reputation because of the things he did?

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I have one question about all of this. Even if the book is the same as the other. Is it not possible that it could be a 9.2 or even a 9.0 or an 8.0 for that matter. After all grading is very subjective (shrug) . One mans 9.2 maybe another mans 8.5. What I really would like to see is the CGC graders notes on this book to see what the pregrader and the final graders gave it. After all we are talking about less than 1 point in the grades

 

Just a $500 difference, that's all

 

even with a $500.00 difference Is it not possible that who ever bought or buys the book may believe it to be higher OR lower than the CGC grade of 8.5? I mean come on how many of us have bought a PGX book cracked it out and submitted it to CGC and a different grade higher or lower comes back. Just using that to make a point that grading is very subjuctive and if you asked 20 different people to look at the book in hand I would say you would get a range of 8.0-9.2. I understand that there is a big difference in price. However, if the buyer or potenial buyer agrees with the grade the Dr gave it and is completely happy . Is there anything wrong with that?

 

Its a totally different situation if he sells it as a 9.2 and the buyer is unhappy and wants to return the book. As long as the Dr. refunds the money or adjusts the price accordingly then that would be ok as well IMHO

 

You're missing the point by about a mile.

 

Muscleshark bought a pressed, slabbed 8.5 book - he cracks it, offers up it for sale as 9.2 raw, and doesn't disclose the fact that it was pressed (which I personally don't care about) and that it was previously graded as a 8.5 (which I do care about).

 

If you don't see the blatant dishonesty in that, you shouldn't be selling here on the boards either.

 

On the side of being open minded, I sold a bronze key to Jive who thought it looked much better than the assigned CGC grade and so he gave it a straight resub and it went from a CGC 9.0 to a CGC 9.6. True story.

 

On the topic of this thread, Frank just lied through his teeth without flinching a muscle. They are without a doubt the same book. That's enough for me.

 

 

In my opinion...Roy , you are a hopeless dope without a clue. Nothing more...nothing less, wow a real leader of the masses...... lol

 

Again, I will say. Grow up Frank. You can either show proof or not. You will know what will happen either way

 

Find your own "Get Rich Quick" scheme...pretty sure Danny Dupcak already tried this one and failed

 

I thought Danny was quite successful at what he does? :shrug:

 

but did it end well? Does he have a better reputation because of the things he did?

 

His cash flow still far exceeds his negative reputation.

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GACollectibles

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-1 on Not the same book.... I'm a dope and clicked the wrong button, I meant crack of course. doh!

 

Bad DickP... Bad! Mocking me like that. (tsk)

 

Dude, get with it, you are supposed to threaten with legal action. doh!

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I want to make sure I have this right. He is claiming that he sold he book listed in the thread on eBay, so he had that book listed on the boards and eBay at the same time? That's a (tsk) right there. I'm too lazy to go back, but I believe he said it sold off eBay this morning. So when was it listed?

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