Light tan -Off white resubmit ?

[kelholt]

I have a CGC 8.5 GA book that says pages are light tan to off white. It is a CGC old label.

I have heard that under the old labeling period, cgc might have been too harsh on page quality. I have not cracked the book out to see for myself. I am thinking of resubmitting to maybe get off white or cream to off white or something better.

My questions are this......

 

1. Anyone have a good/bad experience with this?

2. Should I call and get graders notes and evaluate more then?

3. Does cgc reverse it's opinion on these often?

4. Amy input on difference of old labeling and new label page quality grading?

 

Thanks to all,

Kelly

 

[BlowUpTheMoon]

No matter how great the rest of the book is, no book with light tan pages can grade higher than an 8.5

 

Here's an example (outer cover = 9.0 / inner cover = 9.6):

 

[kelholt]

Makes sense. Thanks for the pic and thoughts.

 

I guess I am wondering if it is worth re-submitting to hopefully have an "upgraded" opinion by cgc on the label and if they would go to cream to off white if they were actually too strict during the old cgc label period.

[BlowUpTheMoon]

Sure, you could roll the dice and see if CGC gives it a better page quality designation, thus removing the 8.5 cap.

[Mio]

Roll the dice if you think it is worthwhile. Depending on the book, it might present big rewards.

[kelholt]

Here is the book. Only flaw is a piece out of cover on right edge that is about 1/8 of a penny sized(maybe not even that big). It is well hidden in the upper arm of the guy in the green shirt. I am not so worried about the 8.5, more so the page quality. Of course I would love for it to be a 9.0.

 

[faster friends]

Go for it. You only live once

[G.A.tor]

I have resubmitted 4 or 5 now, old label books, and I guess to no real surprise, each has come back with the exact same pq (and grade)... I don't buy the "old label" = "tighter pq", at least not from my personal experience

[Primetime]

I have resubmitted 4 or 5 now, old label books, and I guess to no real surprise, each has come back with the exact same pq (and grade)... I don't buy the "old label" = "tighter pq", at least not from my personal experience

I think old labels used to get PQ bumps, but seems like CGC has become tighter on PQ in the past 1-2 years--- old label or not.

[divad]

I have resubmitted 4 or 5 now, old label books, and I guess to no real surprise, each has come back with the exact same pq (and grade)... I don't buy the "old label" = "tighter pq", at least not from my personal experience

 

Especially for a "Light tan -Off white" - it had to earn that PQ in the first place . . .

[chrisco37]

I have resubmitted 4 or 5 now, old label books, and I guess to no real surprise, each has come back with the exact same pq (and grade)... I don't buy the "old label" = "tighter pq", at least not from my personal experience

 

Especially for a "Light tan -Off white" - it had to earn that PQ in the first place . . .

 

I've had an old label LT-OW go to straight OW on a resub.

 

Go for it!

[VintageComics]

I have resubmitted 4 or 5 now, old label books, and I guess to no real surprise, each has come back with the exact same pq (and grade)... I don't buy the "old label" = "tighter pq", at least not from my personal experience

I think old labels used to get PQ bumps, but seems like CGC has become tighter on PQ in the past 1-2 years--- old label or not.

 

Steve Borock came on here and posted that old labels would likely get PQ bumps on resubs, but since he has left things may have changed a bit as it seems that CGC has (in my experience) tightened up on PQ again.

 

I've resubbed LT/OW books several times (and one book 3 times because I disagreed with them) and I never did manage to get the PQ to improve from LT/OW.

 

I'm with Gator in that I buy the book and not the label, especially when it comes to GA books.

 

I've seen enough LT/OW books to know that it's not that big of a deal to me. Especially if it's a tough book that I really would love to own.

[kelholt]

Thanks to all for the advice. I will let you know what happens if I re-submit.