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The Official 2011 Overstreet discussion thread

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WEBHEAD

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Personally I feel that Overstreet has been able to move with the market on RAW books. I've been tracking this over the years by managing to get a copy of all the Overstreets with the exception of #3

 

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Actually, with respect to charts and graphs, the ones below which AJD had posted in the Gold Forum are a lot more informative and representative since they are indexed against inflation, includes not just the top of guide price which is often misleading, covers a much broader spectrum of books beyond just the usual Top 5 keys, and is also measured against a leading financial indicator: (thumbs u

 

 

I'm home sick today, so I had the chance to update the data in my spreadsheets of comic prices. Since Mitch has been banging the drum for investing in Gold (comics) I thought this was relevant.

 

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(1) all prices were converted into today's dollars before the index was calculated. This includes the Dow values.

(2) comic prices are Overstreets with all of the limitations of that - and the jump at the end was Bob being dragged kicking and screaming into realism with the million dollar sales of Action 1 and Tec 27

(3) all of the other caveats already mentioned in this thread still apply

(4) my economist friend has changed his tune - he says now that this is a good time to be holding cash assets, bullion or fine collectables.

 

First up, the 9.2 prices

 

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And now the 6.0

 

big_4_fine_2010.jpg

 

The 'dud' of the big 4 is Marvel #1 - but even in mid grade still gives the Dow a run for its money.

 

Of course, the trick to this sort of analysis is to work out where the graphs go from here. If I could do that I'd probably own the big 4. lol

 

Edit: For the comic investor with a diverse portfolio, here's the Overstreet top 100 GA books index as well:

 

top_100_index.jpg

 

If only we could retrospectively MANNUP!

 

 

I hope AJD continues to maintain these charts for us here on the boards! :applause:

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Guy most likely has 50 Marvel buyers for every DC collector.

 

He knows you are a bigshot attorney so he prices things accordingly. Hire some urchin to act as your buying agent.

 

yeah yeah, i'm a guvment attorney, and unlike my unionized paralegals, I haven't gotten a raise/COLA in almost 5 years and make less than my secretary did when i was in private practice almost 8 years ago...

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Mine is sitting on my porch, waiting for me to arrive. Oh happy day.

 

Are you going to let us know that the market is terrible and all mid-grade BA and SA only sells for about 5% of guide?

 

Party pooper.

 

No.

 

The market is pretty good, all things considered. Mid-grade SA sells for about 40% of Guide, mid-grade BA sells for three bucks. (thumbs u

 

Tell that to my local shop who priced up a VG Avengers 100 and Fine Avengers Annual 7 for me at $20 each. and he knows what a cheap I am, only pay that kind of money for pre-'64 stuff or an ASM 129. Anyway, I declined. But I suspect they'll be sold within 2-3 weeks at those prices.

 

Same place I got a 5.0 Batman 227 for $7. Where's the pricing logic?

 

Go figure.

 

When I ask about something that hasn't been priced yet it always winds up being wayyyy more than something he prices on his own.

 

VG Avengers 100 is $20, Fine Avengers Annual 7 is $15. :roflmao: He's charging you Guide Plus for books that you can buy on eBay ALL DAY LONG for five bucks, or less.

 

Batman 227 in 5.0 is $32.50. $7? :takeit:

 

I'm not so sure the Avengers 100 is a $5 book. Last one I sold had an an almost entirely split cover and I got $10 for it. Dunno about the market for annual 7 though. I was kind of thinking $20 for the two would be reasonable for my collection, not to flip any time soon, but he doubled me up. I don't try to negotiate with this guy because the stuff he puts in the $1 box (which he often gives me first dibs on and sells me 3/$2) is actually often pretty good.

 

He also sold me a $20 ASM 129, but it had an interior clipped coupon (didn't impact story)...otherwise VG+ looking.

 

The prices are random with this guy sometimes even though he whips the guide out every time he prices something.

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Actually, with respect to charts and graphs, the ones below which AJD had posted in the Gold Forum are a lot more informative and representative since they are indexed against inflation, includes not just the top of guide price which is often misleading, covers a much broader spectrum of books beyond just the usual Top 5 keys, and is also measured against a leading financial indicator: (thumbs u

 

 

I'm home sick today, so I had the chance to update the data in my spreadsheets of comic prices. Since Mitch has been banging the drum for investing in Gold (comics) I thought this was relevant.

 

Notes:

 

(1) all prices were converted into today's dollars before the index was calculated. This includes the Dow values.

(2) comic prices are Overstreets with all of the limitations of that - and the jump at the end was Bob being dragged kicking and screaming into realism with the million dollar sales of Action 1 and Tec 27

(3) all of the other caveats already mentioned in this thread still apply

(4) my economist friend has changed his tune - he says now that this is a good time to be holding cash assets, bullion or fine collectables.

 

First up, the 9.2 prices

 

big4_NM-_2010.jpg

 

And now the 6.0

 

big_4_fine_2010.jpg

 

The 'dud' of the big 4 is Marvel #1 - but even in mid grade still gives the Dow a run for its money.

 

Of course, the trick to this sort of analysis is to work out where the graphs go from here. If I could do that I'd probably own the big 4. lol

 

Edit: For the comic investor with a diverse portfolio, here's the Overstreet top 100 GA books index as well:

 

top_100_index.jpg

 

If only we could retrospectively MANNUP!

 

 

I hope AJD continues to maintain these charts for us here on the boards! :applause:

 

the Dow prices given in these charts are out of whack.. (2010 DJIA closed at 11,500, for example, not the $5k-ish represented.)

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the Dow prices given in these charts are out of whack.. (2010 DJIA closed at 11,500, for example, not the $5k-ish represented.)

 

No they aren't - they are inflation-adjusted, so what you're seeing are 'real' values against the 1983 baseline rather than 'nominal'. A 1983 dollar is worth $2.19 2010 dollars.

 

5000 x 2.19 = 10,950

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I hope AJD continues to maintain these charts for us here on the boards! :applause:

 

Thanks Lou. Yep, happy to do so. I'll add the 2011 figures in once the Overstreet guide lands here.

 

I'd like to add a few other keys - especially Silver Age ones like SC4 and AF15 - but I would need the 6.0 and 9.2 prices from 1983-2007. I've only got the last few guides.

 

If anyone can be bothered typing them in, PM me for an email address.

 

 

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Not a whole lot of movement (position) in the top books for each age. Looks like Batman #3 has cracked the charts. And AF 15, while the #1 Silver book, would also make the top 10 in Gold. Man, I remember when that wasn't close to being the case.

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