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RockMyAmadeus

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I think you read in to the comment and the one I quote which was talking about the state of comics right now. Don't focus on the word shouting, I could have easily used mentioning, talking about or any number of other synonyms. Anyway, yes there have obviously been many ups and downs in the industry but the industry always seems to survive. There are always people "Talking about" the industry not surviving yet it seems to always come out the other side. It might look different, it might be scathed but it does survive. That was my point and I stand by what I said.

 

 

Yes...you could have used a different word. But you didn't. You chose that word specifically, to convey a very specific intent...which intent isn't quite accurate, is it...? How can I not focus on the word, when that's the word you used...?

 

The point I'm making is that those who say "oh, those doom and gloomers, they've been predicting catastrophe forEVER now, and it hasn't happened! They don't know what they're talking about, those naysayers! We're better than we've ever been! Look how rosy things are!" Isn't that exactly what you meant, in so many words...? If so, I didn't "read" into it, did I...?

 

Except that it DID happen, and on more than one occasion (actually, on three separate occasions, the entire comics industry nearly collapsed...first in the early 1950's, then in the mid- to late 70's, then again in the mid-90's.)

 

You say here: "There are always people "Talking about" the industry not surviving..."

 

But that's not what you said. What you said is this: "It's counter to the doom and gloom that people have been shouting for decades now."

 

Those are two different (albeit related) thoughts. "Surviving" is different from "doom and gloom." No one's saying the industry hasn't survived. It has, clearly. But not every aspect of the industry survived, and it was, indeed, very bad for very many people.

 

If you think I'm playing semantics or word games, you would be mistaken. Why does that ancient history matter? Because the same types of attitudes and mentalities are happening once again. Same thing, rinse and repeat, every 20 years. And real people really get hurt, either because they themselves are ignorant and foolish, or because they operated in a sea of fools, and could only go down with the ship.

 

Larry's a smart guy. No doubt. He survived when thousands of others did not. But...thousands did not. What's different now, that we didn't have in the 50's, the 70's, and the 90's (mostly)? The internet. The internet is all grown up, and people can say "whoa...hold on a sec. This is the kind of thinking that got us into trouble before, we need to slow down a bit."

 

Will anyone listen? Maybe. The vast majority, probably not.

 

After all, I'm constantly "shouted down" by the people whose sole motive is profit around here for daring to say these things publicly, and those people (ab)use the mechanism of the moderation system to achieve their goal of silencing criticism and opposition.

 

Look at the endless "what is this worth?" threads that pop up on the board. Those threads were rare 10 years ago...now they're an every day occurrence. Not "who would win in a fight", not "which artist was better", not "what's your favorite storyline"...just "how much is this worth?"

 

That does not bode well.

 

So, will anyone consider? Mostly no. But some will, and some will be saved from greater hurt because they were prudent and cautious.

 

lol ok but no. "you chose that word specifically, to convey a very specific intent" Completely wrong. Thanks for reading though, lets not derail the thread

 

 

Oh come on, now. You and I and everyone reading this knows it's not "completely wrong."

 

;)

 

 

 

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Old Fashion PB and J

Old Fashion PB and J

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I suspect these won't last much longer.

 

Can't be too many left now.

 

GHOST RIDER #1 back up

 

http://frankiescomics.com/products/xjc0myvp98

Gone, I couldn't buy it without seeing it. Probably my loss.

 

Probably not, it's Ghost Rider.

Another 7 issue run before low sales get it cancelled

Possibly, but great artist and low availability
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the blob

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I was in Rome recently and every newsstand seems to have a nice comics section and there are a lot of newsstands. Have no idea if anyone is actually buying anything sure, but do these circulation figures include foreign numbers?

 

I know you NYC guys think the rest of America is different from home, but Rome, NY is not a foreign country!

 

:baiting:

 

Might as well be. And I really doubt there is a newsstand in Rome, NY. Might have been last time I was there, but that was like in 1984.

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Couchy81

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I'm skeptical. Seems to be a lot of "errors" popping up lately. The new ultra rare variant controlled entirely by publisher/distributors .. on purpose? I wouldn't pay a cent for that. Green Lanterns sucks.

 

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Im serious... let me guess. is it a first appearance or key issue?

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AKA Rick

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I'm skeptical. Seems to be a lot of "errors" popping up lately. The new ultra rare variant controlled entirely by publisher/distributors .. on purpose? I wouldn't pay a cent for that. Green Lanterns sucks.

 

K

 

Card Companies in the 1990's seemed to create errors on purpose to build up false hype

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