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[Dukes40]

Along with a possible movie (2016), the Flash is now being brought to television.

It looks like DC comics are trying to go punch for punch with Marvel.

 

http://www.newsarama.com/18522-report-the-flash-running-to-live-action-on-cw-thanks-to-arrow-s-success.html

 

For the second time.

[WebSlinger]

Big announcement was the tv show

 

Which was the same announcement as last year.

 

Actually, the announcement last year was a potential tv show. The announcement at Image Expo was confirmation the TV show is officially happening.

 

Thankyou - been looking everywhere for that.

It's hard to discuss this book for some reason.

Is it that some are worried they have over bought, sold too early, have too few - but lets take the $ out of this.

 

TWD - is a world-wide hit. No doubt, and surely no argument from anyone here.

 

PP - I can only assume some haters haven't read it?

It's a story 'loosely' based on Peter Pan.

The Lost Boys are French resistance fighters - they kill, and get killed.

Peter isn't superhuman. He doesn't actually fly. He is just looking for a lost love.

The story is told through the eyes of the surviving Wolf Pack, many years later in post-war France.

It's a tribute if you will, to the French Resistance in some ways - and as such is a story worth telling.

It will appeal to all Europeans who's countries actually underwent that occupation only 70 odd years ago.

The WW2 defences still stand in France, England, Holland etc, memorials are everywhere - WW2 is ingrained in the psyche of the European Nations as this happened to them.

Of course it has interest. To suggest otherwise is disrespectful of the fallen of all nations.

Rememberance day in Europe is huge, just like Gallipoli is to Australia.

So, yes, it has relevance to a multitude of people - and the BBC, as said before, do the best period dramas in the world.

 

Peter Pan is still loved by kids all over the world. It still has queues at every Disneyland, the book is still read by millions and is a staple in schools around the world. So it should appeal to young and old

There will be a lot of people, who if it is marketed properly, will want to see this.

The writing is genius. I am tempted to swap 'boring' for 'not-understood' in a few posts on here. Stick with it. It draws you in very quickly.

 

Now add a comic with only 4814 copies printed (so knock off 1000 as gone forever), and add a thriving readership, add a motion comic starring Wood and Perlman - who have been in hit after hit.

The comic will attract publicity from that and a confirmed BBC television series, add the fact that PP will be ongoing further than 25 issues and you have a highly desirable product on your hands.

 

Hate if you want but to label WW2 as 'uninteresting' is quite frankly insulting.

I'm invested in this comic and want it to succeed.

I have explained why.

 

Perhaps haters could expand their argument for the 'nay' so I and others can understand and not think its just pissy sour grapes because you are not in possession of one.

 

I own 10 copies of #1 (6 of them slabbed), have been reading the series since day 1, and bought the first TPB for my daughter when it came out so she could enjoy it as well - but because I think it's insane to believe this series is going to be bigger than TWD, I'm a hater? :shrug:

 

The motion comic means nothing - I know you want it to be a huge deal, I believe you referred to it as a "volcano" earlier on, but the sad truth is that nobody cares about motion comics. It doesn't matter who directs them, it doesn't matter who voices them, it doesn't matter how "motion-y" they are - they don't pull in non-comic-book people, they don't generate excitement and they're ignored by anyone who isn't already a die-hard fan. The motion comic trailer that came out back in May was linked on a single national website in their Comics section - it didn't even register on the radar of any mainstream media outlet.

 

When Buffy - which is arguably one of the most popular teen TV shows of all time - can't generate any traction whatsoever for their motion comic, what makes you think that an unknown property like PP will succeed in that regard?

 

As for the "confirmed BBC television series", well, I'm still looking for a link to a press release (or anything, really) that actually confirms that the BBC has committed to a full season of PP like you mentioned earlier - even though Wiebe himself said a week ago that no casting or production had happened on the live action show. The only thing I've been able to find, however, is the press release from October of last year. Even in the Image Expo interview you reference above, the "a live-action series in development at the BBC" bit links to that same year-old press release. Care to share the source for your info?

 

Lastly ... Dr. Who is arguably, to your average slightly-nerdy American, the best known of the current BBC TV crop. Series 7 premiered to 1.5 million viewers in September of last year which was the highest ratings in BBC America history. In comparison, TWD delivered 12 million viewers for the season 3 finale.

 

PP may very well end up airing on BBC who, as you so rightly point out, are terrific at historical dramas. It may even end up being a great show, well cast & beautifully produced (and, *spoon*, I hope that does end up being the case - I would love to see this series on TV). But it's never going to rival the TWD phenomenon. Ever.

 

It can't be stressed enough how TWD has been the perfect storm when it comes to value on the secondary market. A critically-acclaimed comic book series that built up a fanatical following over almost a decade. Slow & steady growth in the market which allowed latecomers to get in on the action (and not be priced out immediately due to pre-TV show hype). And a fantastic TV show perfectly timed to coincide with the world's current fascination with zombies.

 

If anyone thinks there's ANY current comic book that's ever going to mirror the ascent of TWD, they're fooling themselves.

 

This is spot on. No one will EVER care about a motion comic.... EVER.

 

So same thing goes for Chew then? Nobody will ever care or watch the motion comic??

[Katchoo]

Correct.

[accessndx]

I think it's supposed to be real animation...not motion comic.

 

...is currently prepping a direct-to-video animated adaptation of "Chew" and is meeting with potential showrunners for a live-action series of the comic

 

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/178583-image-comics-chew-getting-animated-adaptation-followed-by-tv-series

 

"We think there is less chance for Hollywood to f*** it up if we pursue a CHEW animated route," Layman said on Twitter, later adding, "A CHEW cartoon does not negate live action down the road."

 

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2013/08/02/chew-animated-series/

[krighton]

the motion comic isn't the driving force behind PP's speculation...it was the TV talk...Motion comic is just gravy.

[Dukes40]

I don't have a boinger for this book but I am intrigued. Two things no one has mentioned that cut different ways:

 

1. A large portion of the print run is in the hands of speculators. This was not the case with walking dead because most speculators sold off at certain price points because no recent books soared to that level, and few could believe what was happening would be sustained(see the bubble burst thread). When the book hit $100 many of the original hoarders sold off, some new speculators entered the market but most did not ammase hoarder level inventories (though I have seen a few). PP on the other hand was purchases enmass by several speculators, when they are satisfied that it is time to sell, there will be a good supply. The one million dollar question is whether the demand at the time will out strip the supply at the new price point, if so the book will skyrocket, if not, it could stall out.

 

2. Considering demand. Walking dead is huge. However, PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience. If the show is quality, and the comic story can draw people in, things will explode. If not then, speculators will be looking to dump those stocks.

 

There are too many variables at this point to call the book either way. But unlike 99.99% of other books, this book has potential. I have noticed a dramatic increase in the quality of the art over the run. Tyler is really picking up steam and the cover to #15 proves it, that is killer. I am very happy for the creators and I hope they can parlay this success into a fulfilling career.

 

Good point with the subject matter appealing to a broader audience.

 

I think, however, that more people who like zombie stuff would be inclined to buy a comic than people who like WWII.

 

Like ya, I could see the 50 year old guy watching Petey Panz over Walking D, but then I couldn't see him searching out a comic, vs the Walking Dead fan who would be more likely to.

 

Hard to say though.

 

Good points.

[Dukes40]

The Lone Ranger was a loser project with or without Depp. Why would anyone in their right mind in Hollywood think that it would lift off?

 

How many kids you know are actively playing "Cowboys and Indians" anymore?

 

(insert cricket noises here)

 

3:10 to Yuma was awesome.

True Grit too.

 

How did Cowboys and ALiens do? I thought it was fairly good. What was the reception? Box-Office?

 

Wild Wild West I THINK was popular box-office wise (?? not sure?? though).

 

I think it's always hard to say I guess with some genres.

 

Tonto visuals looked cool, and I mean, if someone wanted to go, I would probably see it. But I REALLY don't have a huge desire to.

 

But you could probably say that about Pirates of the C. Who would have thought?

Pirates? Really?

 

I mean, they were not bad (save for the third one that was convoluted and ridiculous).

 

But I mean, Captain Jack is a pretty ridiculous character.

 

I guess it's a dice roll some times.

[Dukes40]

The PP show will fail. Just my 2 cents. Nothing against the book. The only modern book that has a chance at WD 1 prices is the Saga RRP New article in Time Magazine.

 

It says it's a comic with two non-white leads.

 

So Alana and......?? Prince Robot?? ?? ??

 

The baby?? ?? ??

[Dukes40]

Even if they cast Jesus Christ and Charlie Manson in a feature film, the book won't hit $2500-3k

 

If that happened, I think we'd have bigger fish to fry than speculating on comic book prices.

 

 

[Dukes40]

2. Considering demand. Walking dead is huge. However, PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience. If the show is quality, and the comic story can draw people in, things will explode. If not then, speculators will be looking to dump those stocks.

 

Not looking to argue, but want to discuss this point. You state "PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience." I assume you are talking about it being based on Peter Pan?

 

 

This isn't necessarily aimed only at Mike's Rack, so please anyone chime in: Is Peter Pan really a broader audience than the zombie genre?

 

?? You took Peter Pan as the broad subject matter ??

[paperheart]

The Lone Ranger was a loser project with or without Depp. Why would anyone in their right mind in Hollywood think that it would lift off?

 

How many kids you know are actively playing "Cowboys and Indians" anymore?

 

(insert cricket noises here)

 

3:10 to Yuma was awesome.

True Grit too.

 

How did Cowboys and ALiens do? I thought it was fairly good. What was the reception? Box-Office?

 

Wild Wild West I THINK was popular box-office wise (?? not sure?? though).

 

I think it's always hard to say I guess with some genres.

 

Tonto visuals looked cool, and I mean, if someone wanted to go, I would probably see it. But I REALLY don't have a huge desire to.

 

But you could probably say that about Pirates of the C. Who would have thought?

Pirates? Really?

 

I mean, they were not bad (save for the third one that was convoluted and ridiculous).

 

But I mean, Captain Jack is a pretty ridiculous character.

 

I guess it's a dice roll some times.

 

funny you should mention those two as they were box office bombs and led to "the western is dead again" talk on both occasions

[Dukes40]

I usually do not visit this thread, but 49 posts drew me in

 

all

 

 

Porn still taking up too much of your time.

 

 

Nice! First screen shots from BBC Peter Panzerfaust, Episode 1 !! !! !!

 

Price Jump!! !! !! :banana:

[Dukes40]

: Is Peter Pan really a broader audience than the zombie genre?

 

Good question for Kurtis during his first appearance on BBC's 'Talking Pan'.

 

NO! WWII is! How are people getting Peter Pan as the "broader" subject matter??

[@Captain_Sawyer]

Remember when this thread used to be about moderns that were heating up on eBay....

[Dukes40]

. Those types of fans I can see spending thousands of dollars on a comic. WW2 fans, not so much. But I'd love to be wrong here!

 

I think this fact is very true.

 

The only thing I could see is TV watchers making the Peter show big, thus bringing more attention/demand for the comic, but not necessarily getting the comic themselves.

[Jimmy Linguini]

Remember when this thread used to be about moderns that were heating up on eBay....

 

we talking summer of 2012?

[inconceivable]

Perlman, E. Wood and S. Glau are no where close to being big celeberties.

 

If the three of them made a movie together it would most likely go straight to video.

 

Andrew Lincoln and Norman Reedus weren't big celebs before Walking Dead. I remembered they blocked an aisle at Comic con so they could cross and I recognized no one. I wish that I could see them across a blocked aisle now.

 

Dan

[Dukes40]

2. Considering demand. Walking dead is huge. However, PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience. If the show is quality, and the comic story can draw people in, things will explode. If not then, speculators will be looking to dump those stocks.

 

Not looking to argue, but want to discuss this point. You state "PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience." I assume you are talking about it being based on Peter Pan?

 

 

This isn't necessarily aimed only at Mike's Rack, so please anyone chime in: Is Peter Pan really a broader audience than the zombie genre?

its up there PP has huge international potential. if done right this will be huge !

 

No next question

 

PP has the potential to be even bigger than Walking Dead. What have you been smokin'? You can't possible think that a subject matter on WW2 & Nazi's is going to appeal to a larger audience.

 

Your great-Uncle, or grandpa, or even dad is likely to watch Peter Panzer.

 

Not as likely to watch Walking Dead.

 

Zombies and horror have ALWAYS been a smaller/niche/cult subject matter compared to most other genres.

[Dukes40]

2. Considering demand. Walking dead is huge. However, PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience. If the show is quality, and the comic story can draw people in, things will explode. If not then, speculators will be looking to dump those stocks.

 

Not looking to argue, but want to discuss this point. You state "PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience." I assume you are talking about it being based on Peter Pan?

 

 

This isn't necessarily aimed only at Mike's Rack, so please anyone chime in: Is Peter Pan really a broader audience than the zombie genre?

its up there PP has huge international potential. if done right this will be huge !

 

No next question

 

 

PP has the potential to be even bigger than Walking Dead. What have you been smokin'? You can't possible think that a subject matter on WW2 & Nazi's is going to appeal to a larger audience.

 

Be more then happy to put a friendly wager on that if you can put a timeline and a scope to measure it with.

 

+ a million.

 

[Dukes40]

2. Considering demand. Walking dead is huge. However, PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience. If the show is quality, and the comic story can draw people in, things will explode. If not then, speculators will be looking to dump those stocks.

 

Not looking to argue, but want to discuss this point. You state "PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience." I assume you are talking about it being based on Peter Pan?

 

 

This isn't necessarily aimed only at Mike's Rack, so please anyone chime in: Is Peter Pan really a broader audience than the zombie genre?

its up there PP has huge international potential. if done right this will be huge !

 

Never going to happen.

TWD changed everything and it's in the consciousness of ordinary "non collecting" people. Speculators drove the ridiculous prices on this book.

No one will EVER give a rats azz about a motion comic no matter who is in it, directing it or wrote it. Anyone who thinks that anyone will even know about this book in 5 years is kidding themselves. WW2 and Peter Pan... Seriously?

 

 

With regards to motion comics, what's the point of them??

 

Watched one on Netflix of Astonishing X-Men.

 

I mean......It's SORT of neat, but kind of pointless.

 

Would much rather watch real animation, or read the comic.