HARIBON Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I have the same books like ExNihilo. Bought from Cape & Cowl - Black Panther # 1 (Variant). I'm sending mine off now and see what happens. I have the same marks on my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn1709 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Hey guys! I'm curious as to how CGC grades prestige format books with these "lines" going down the book. Of all of the copies on eBay that I have looked at (probably over 50) they have all had them (some bad and some worse). Let me know how CGC would grade these. Thanks! Example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASEnBLUE Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 If the lines break color from being opened, then that will affect the grade. Try posting in the PGM Comic thread too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn1709 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, Acegraphix said: If the lines break color from being opened, then that will affect the grade. Try posting in the PGM Comic thread too.... Ok, thank you. CHASEnBLUE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Troub Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 6/9/2004 at 2:24 PM, DiceX said: Marvel Chipping has been blamed on dull blades when the book was trimmed. I'm skeptical of this because a dull blade would possibly only give a jagged edge, sort of like what you see as a common problem on Amazing Spider-Man #300. I'd think a more likely possiblity would be poor paper quality that gets flaky on the edges as time and oxygen break down the fibers. The edges of this particular paper would be more likely to flake. I could be completely wrong, but I think it's a possiblity. Borock may have a better soloution this defect because of his experience with looking at so many examples of it. While I have no way of proving my idea...I'd need to see some solid proof before I believe the dull blade theory. I have a hard time believing that the bindery blade was dull for 15-20 years. If it was possible to trace the paper down to the mill, I'd bet the paper on all these chipped books came from the same source. This is a hard one to answer because it is something that takes time to become evident, and can't be seen immediately. Who knows...In 20 years when we have Marvel Chipping on all the ASM 300's and Hulk 340's, we may have the question answered. As a former printer for 25 plus years, a dull blade WOULD NOT cause marvel chipping comicnoir and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradejunky Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Have 2 copies of Batman 655 with a weird bubble on the substrate on otherwise 9.4++ books. I can almost remember seeing this flaw on copies when it first hit shelves, and I made sure to get copies without it. These I got soon after through the mail. Does anyone else have any experience with this flaw on this book? Regardless, what could I realistically grade these out at? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicdey Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Remind me how this can happen. FF74 with a hanging chad of Superman 205. Note the in house Iron Man 1 ad on the last page. Right at the big marvel boom of ‘68 Gnasher and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnasher Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 9:28 PM, Kevin76 said: After the ink is applied to the sheet of paper, it goes into a heatset oven to dry the ink, if the oven temp is too hot, the paper being run through (usually coated walking dead type of stock) will cause the paper to blister and create bubbles @gradejunky, the answer from Kevin76 may be the answer to your query. On 8/29/2018 at 5:01 PM, gradejunky said: Have 2 copies of Batman 655 with a weird bubble on the substrate on otherwise 9.4++ books. I can almost remember seeing this flaw on copies when it first hit shelves, and I made sure to get copies without it. These I got soon after through the mail. Does anyone else have any experience with this flaw on this book? Regardless, what could I realistically grade these out at? Thanks gradejunky and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 11/8/2018 at 6:17 AM, Gnasher said: @gradejunky, the answer from Kevin76 may be the answer to your query. That's exactly it...Had a JSA Classified 1 that looked like a 9.8 but it had a blister on it...came back 9.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iXr184 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Does anyone know how this crease will affected the grade of the book? This appears to be a production crease which I have seen on many books. This one however is a candidate for grading. It's already been pressed. Thanks for your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 This is a very informative thread. I just read pages 1-26. It is too bad that this thread seems to become a "please grade my comic book" rather than information on the types of production defects. Also unfortunate is the loss of photos (such as those Photophucket pics). It has not been mentioned yet, but St John Publishing may have been the best/worst offender of production errors and I hope to share some images in the near future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masons Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 very good. Thanks Clipping path service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozonetv Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Saw this book posted - The description said "the cover has been trimmed (apparently the seller worked at a recycling plant in the *70's and kept the damaged comics caused by printing errors) "... ...wondering if its a production error or actually considered trimmed...I understand production errors can still get blue labels. * note the date inconsistency...already inquired. Thanks~ Edited April 8, 2019 by Ozonetv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Ozonetv said: Saw this book posted - The description said "the cover has been trimmed (apparently the seller worked at a recycling plant in the *70's and kept the damaged comics caused by printing errors) "... ...wondering if its a production error or actually considered trimmed...I understand production errors can still get blue labels. * note the date inconsistency...already inquired. Thanks~ I just had a similar "error" copy graded by CGC and it came back in a purple label. I see your copy has the right edge of the cover (not interior) hand-cut. Mine had the top edge of the cover (not interior) hand -cut. To be fair to CGC, there's no way for them to discern a production cut like this versus the same thing being done post-production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozonetv Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Yorick said: I just had a similar "error" copy graded by CGC and it came back in a purple label. I see your copy has the right edge of the cover (not interior) hand-cut. Mine had the top edge of the cover (not interior) hand -cut. To be fair to CGC, there's no way for them to discern a production cut like this versus the same thing being done post-production. That was my feeling too...I passed on this book... tho it would seem odd to me to trim the cover without trimming the pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverseeker Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Hey everyone, I just scanned through this thread before asking my question...some great information in here! I have a copy of Atom #9 that has a bubble in the "A" of the logo, and there's no evidence of this defect when I look on the inside of the front cover...could this be another example of blistering? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 14 hours ago, silverseeker said: Hey everyone, I just scanned through this thread before asking my question...some great information in here! I have a copy of Atom #9 that has a bubble in the "A" of the logo, and there's no evidence of this defect when I look on the inside of the front cover...could this be another example of blistering? Thanks! You don't see any discoloration/staining (as if a water drop landed there)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverseeker Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Yorick said: You don't see any discoloration/staining (as if a water drop landed there)? @Yorick, thanks for the response! There does not appear to be any discoloration or staining (I would expect to see something on the inside of the front cover if this were the case), and the cover gloss appears to be consistent on the bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 19 hours ago, silverseeker said: Hey everyone, I just scanned through this thread before asking my question...some great information in here! I have a copy of Atom #9 that has a bubble in the "A" of the logo, and there's no evidence of this defect when I look on the inside of the front cover...could this be another example of blistering? Thanks! Yes, that would be a blister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverseeker Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kevin76 said: Yes, that would be a blister Thanks @Kevin76! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...