AmazingComics413 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hi, First time posting so I hope this works. How rare or unique is this production flaw? I have personally read thousands of comics and only seen this once. Oh, the joys of manufacturing. These books bring us so much joy, but back in the day, the guys working the presses probably weren't having much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgccollectors Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 this article on splicing is very interesting amazing post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aasparky1000 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Questin regarding this, does this type of printing defect affect the comics grade, I am referring to the circle of white on spiderman's head, thx you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 It's called a hickey. I doubt it would affect the grade much, though I can't answer that for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I walk into work and 20 minutes later...bottom yellow ink overflow, along with the mess dayshift left me to clean up. The yellow ink overflow was some what cleaned up but it had to wait because the press was running all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarcadet Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 2 copies of the same book but one has "waves" in it. The book is a 100 page glued spine . Will sitting in a box press out the waves or does it need a proper press to look flat? Would CGC grade the less waved book higher or overlook it as a 100 page production flaw. the book is somewhat scarce so i dont have the luxury of finding a better copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 The highest grade you'll get on the book in the first few pictures is 9.6. The white on the spine and on the right can still sneak into a 9.8 slab, but the curling on the spine, how the book doesn't lay flat, will not get a 9.8. It's called a stacking curl and is probably one of the most common flaws keeping a book from the 9.8 slab. Luckily, it's easily fixed with a press. A bindery tear can still get a 9.8, but it hast to be tiny. Like hard to see tiny. If you have the tiny bindery tears on both top and bottom, chances are you're getting 9.6 at best. The same goes with blunted corners. Even if there is no fraying, if the spine corners are dinged, you're looking at 9.6 at best in most cases. A 9.8 can have a couple of flaws, but they have to be tiny. Production cuts such as the ones in your pictures are not going to stop it from getting 9.8. The number of 9.8 books I have seen with spine ticks, and other blemishes I have no idea what qualifys a book to be a 9.8 to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 2 copies of the same book but one has "waves" in it. The book is a 100 page glued spine . Will sitting in a box press out the waves or does it need a proper press to look flat? Would CGC grade the less waved book higher or overlook it as a 100 page production flaw. the book is somewhat scarce so i dont have the luxury of finding a better copy. This is a perfect example of why it is my opinion that production defects need to be considered when grading a book. In the example above, the book can be obtained without the waviness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarcadet Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 2 copies of the same book but one has "waves" in it. The book is a 100 page glued spine . Will sitting in a box press out the waves or does it need a proper press to look flat? Would CGC grade the less waved book higher or overlook it as a 100 page production flaw. the book is somewhat scarce so i dont have the luxury of finding a better copy. This is a perfect example of why it is my opinion that production defects need to be considered when grading a book. In the example above, the book can be obtained without the waviness. both books were bagged and boarded, printed in 1993, from the same owner, same condition but one has nasty waves and the other lays pretty flat. Will CGC grade them differently? its seems to be a production flaw on a 100 pager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 If everything else on the two books looks exactly the same, then the "wavy" book should get a lesser grade. IMHO, of course. -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 If everything else on the two books looks exactly the same, then the "wavy" book should get a lesser grade. IMHO, of course. -slym +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarcadet Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 If everything else on the two books looks exactly the same, then the "wavy" book should get a lesser grade. IMHO, of course. -slym i agree, will pressing take out those waves? heck ill get both pressed because im just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I would ask someone about the waviness and if it could be pressed out first. But that's just me. -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I would ask someone about the waviness and if it could be pressed out first. But that's just me. -slym Yeah. PM joeypost about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarcadet Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 i went through Hero Restoration 2 months ago he did excellent work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 i agree, will pressing take out those waves? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I would ask someone about the waviness and if it could be pressed out first. But that's just me. -slym Yeah. PM joeypost about this. They can be pressed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarcadet Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I would ask someone about the waviness and if it could be pressed out first. But that's just me. -slym Yeah. PM joeypost about this. They can be pressed out. awesome!!! thanks! did this happen due to improper storing or Danish climate or its how it was printed in factory? thanks so much. yes these books deserve to pressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Balls Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I've seen a few Hulk King Size Annual #5 issues with the first wraps missing the bottom staple like this: Aside from the flaw, this copy is pretty much a VF/NM (9.0) I know it would result in a Qualified grade if submitted - but what does the production flaw do to the raw (non-CGC) grade? Does a VF/NM drop to a Fine? Thanks for the help, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarcadet Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I've seen a few Hulk King Size Annual #5 issues with the first wraps missing the bottom staple like this: Aside from the flaw, this copy is pretty much a VF/NM (9.0) I know it would result in a Qualified grade if submitted - but what does the production flaw do to the raw (non-CGC) grade? Does a VF/NM drop to a Fine? Thanks for the help, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...