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Is this story out of continuity, etc. and thus no interest?

 

Would have thought it might have perked up a bit as it is sort of an obscure low print run 1996/1997 marvel series. I don't see it much.

 

(I know, it's not copper really, but the modern forum is a little crazy right now)

 

That cover is :sick:

 

They were trying to do a painted look, perhaps an homage to the magazine appearances from the 70s

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

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Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

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Lobo and Punisher started to fizzle in popularity around the same time in the mid-90s. Lobo was not quite as popular as Punisher, but he was pretty popular for a while and then i guess his schtick wore thin. Punisher is part of the spiderman ethos, so it is easier to bring him back again and again and his key appearance is going to be worth more. If he had first appeared in Marvel Two in One or some other third tier title it wouldn't be the same. Deadpool did well with a comic trying to be funny many years later.

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Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

---------

 

Lobo and Punisher started to fizzle in popularity around the same time in the mid-90s. Lobo was not quite as popular as Punisher, but he was pretty popular for a while and then i guess his schtick wore thin. Punisher is part of the spiderman ethos, so it is easier to bring him back again and again and his key appearance is going to be worth more. If he had first appeared in Marvel Two in One or some other third tier title it wouldn't be the same. Deadpool did well with a comic trying to be funny many years later.

 

 

The biggest problem with the Punisher is the character is based on a archetype that has it's roots firmly planted in the 1970s. That was the era of the Charles Bronson and Clint Eastwood revenge movies which spawned the Punisher. It looked like Marvel was going to reinvent the character in the 1990s but that fizzled. The character has been on life support every since then. The Netflix appearances will drawn attention to the character, but the Punisher's best days are behind him. Luckily, the aging fanbase remembers the character and his heyday, which is why ASM #129 is so valuable. Punisher's rise and fall are akin to the rise and fall of action hero movies. When Schwarzenegger, Willis, Stallone, Norris, etc. where at their peak, so was the Punisher. When those movies went out of favor, so did the Punisher.

 

Lobo is a one trick character whose best days where when his creator Keith Giffen worked on him. Unfortunately, very few other writers have been able to capture the zeitgeist that made Lobo popular. Lobo works best as an appearance in another heroes title, not in his own title.

 

I never count a character completely out though. The Punisher or Lobo can be made relevant today in the right creator's hands. Personally, I don't think every character can or needs to be an A lister. Marvel and DC Universes work best with a handful of A listers and a bunch of supporting characters (civilians, heroes, and villains.)

 

 

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Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

---------

 

Lobo and Punisher started to fizzle in popularity around the same time in the mid-90s. Lobo was not quite as popular as Punisher, but he was pretty popular for a while and then i guess his schtick wore thin. Punisher is part of the spiderman ethos, so it is easier to bring him back again and again and his key appearance is going to be worth more. If he had first appeared in Marvel Two in One or some other third tier title it wouldn't be the same. Deadpool did well with a comic trying to be funny many years later.

 

 

The biggest problem with the Punisher is the character is based on a archetype that has it's roots firmly planted in the 1970s. That was the era of the Charles Bronson and Clint Eastwood revenge movies which spawned the Punisher. It looked like Marvel was going to reinvent the character in the 1990s but that fizzled. The character has been on life support every since then. The Netflix appearances will drawn attention to the character, but the Punisher's best days are behind him. Luckily, the aging fanbase remembers the character and his heyday, which is why ASM #129 is so valuable. Punisher's rise and fall are akin to the rise and fall of action hero movies. When Schwarzenegger, Willis, Stallone, Norris, etc. where at their peak, so was the Punisher. When those movies went out of favor, so did the Punisher.

 

Lobo is a one trick character whose best days where when his creator Keith Giffen worked on him. Unfortunately, very few other writers have been able to capture the zeitgeist that made Lobo popular. Lobo works best as an appearance in another heroes title, not in his own title.

 

I never count a character completely out though. The Punisher or Lobo can be made relevant today in the right creator's hands. Personally, I don't think every character can or needs to be an A lister. Marvel and DC Universes work best with a handful of A listers and a bunch of supporting characters (civilians, heroes, and villains.)

 

 

At least Lobo can have his adventures in outer space, so they can pretty much make the story about whatever they want, with whatever weapons and aliens and scenery they want. Even though they had the Punisher in space storyline, I'm pretty sure they're still limited to the shadows of NYC with the Punisher in tv/movies.

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Yes, Punisher Vs The Marvel Universe, came out in 2012 I believe. Really an awesome story-line, the typical cocky Tony Stark who figures bringing down a civilian, even a civilian named Frank Castle, isn't worth his time. The fun ensues from there...

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

 

Do you think that is the "secondary grail" behind Omega Men, now?

If not, what?

In a world that pays me $10-$15 for X-Force 2's, Lobo #1 has potential.

 

( You're also seven years younger than me?! Jebus. you look like you got beat up with a bag of donuts. I had you pegged as seven years older. Minimum )

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

 

Do you think that is the "secondary grail" behind Omega Men, now?

If not, what?

In a world that pays me $10-$15 for X-Force 2's, Lobo #1 has potential.

 

( You're also seven years younger than me?! Jebus. you look like you got beat up with a bag of donuts. I had you pegged as seven years older. Minimum )

 

JLI 18 is the book.

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

 

Do you think that is the "secondary grail" behind Omega Men, now?

If not, what?

In a world that pays me $10-$15 for X-Force 2's, Lobo #1 has potential.

 

( You're also seven years younger than me?! Jebus. you look like you got beat up with a bag of donuts. I had you pegged as seven years older. Minimum )

 

JLI 18 is the book.

 

Man, Kevin Maguire was king of the world at one time.

Why?

Ist Lobo in current incarnation?

 

 

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

 

Do you think that is the "secondary grail" behind Omega Men, now?

If not, what?

In a world that pays me $10-$15 for X-Force 2's, Lobo #1 has potential.

 

( You're also seven years younger than me?! Jebus. you look like you got beat up with a bag of donuts. I had you pegged as seven years older. Minimum )

 

JLI 18 is the book.

 

Man, Kevin Maguire was king of the world at one time.

Why?

Ist Lobo in current incarnation?

 

 

Correct - 1st Main Man Lobo

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

 

Do you think that is the "secondary grail" behind Omega Men, now?

If not, what?

In a world that pays me $10-$15 for X-Force 2's, Lobo #1 has potential.

 

( You're also seven years younger than me?! Jebus. you look like you got beat up with a bag of donuts. I had you pegged as seven years older. Minimum )

 

Oh please. I've seen you at shows, you look like you got hit by every branch of the ugly tree you fell out of, and you have a distinctly stalker vibe.

 

:D

 

I'm no prize by any stretch, but there's no way on earth I look like I'm in my late 50's.

 

Silly Larry.

 

PS. I'd look to books like JLI #18-19, Legion '89 #4, etc.

 

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

 

Do you think that is the "secondary grail" behind Omega Men, now?

If not, what?

In a world that pays me $10-$15 for X-Force 2's, Lobo #1 has potential.

 

( You're also seven years younger than me?! Jebus. you look like you got beat up with a bag of donuts. I had you pegged as seven years older. Minimum )

 

JLI 18 is the book.

 

Man, Kevin Maguire was king of the world at one time.

Why?

Ist Lobo in current incarnation?

 

 

Correct - 1st Main Man Lobo

 

It's his first appearance outside of Omega Men too but that cover is awful.

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

 

Do you think that is the "secondary grail" behind Omega Men, now?

If not, what?

In a world that pays me $10-$15 for X-Force 2's, Lobo #1 has potential.

 

( You're also seven years younger than me?! Jebus. you look like you got beat up with a bag of donuts. I had you pegged as seven years older. Minimum )

 

JLI 18 is the book.

 

Man, Kevin Maguire was king of the world at one time.

Why?

Ist Lobo in current incarnation?

 

 

Correct - 1st Main Man Lobo

 

It's his first appearance outside of Omega Men too but that cover is awful.

 

But he is the Main Man - :sumo:

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I once wrote an "investment column" for Clay's Comics (well, a tryout, anyways) in Hayward, CA in 1991. This was just after the Lobo mini had come out, and I was suggesting that it might be the next ASM #129.

 

Which, in theory, wasn't a bad prediction, had DC treated the character correctly.

 

But, as many of you know, it didn't quite pan out that way.

 

Oops.

 

Hey, I was 18.

 

:insane:

 

Do you think that is the "secondary grail" behind Omega Men, now?

If not, what?

In a world that pays me $10-$15 for X-Force 2's, Lobo #1 has potential.

 

( You're also seven years younger than me?! Jebus. you look like you got beat up with a bag of donuts. I had you pegged as seven years older. Minimum )

 

Oh please. I've seen you at shows, you look like you got hit by every branch of the ugly tree you fell out of, and you have a distinctly stalker vibe.

 

:D

 

I'm no prize by any stretch, but there's no way on earth I look like I'm in my late 50's.

 

Silly Larry.

 

PS. I'd look to books like JLI #18-19, Legion '89 #4, etc.

 

I'm handsome as the day is long.

And. I. Know it.

 

JLI 18 it is.

1st main man Lobo.

 

Has a nice ring to it.

 

Also. The cover is absolutely fabulous.

 

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