telerites Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 8 hours ago, jimbo_7071 said: Well, one of the highlights of the Cookeville collection was the Cap run, and there was a Cap no. 1. Considering that CGC is giving pedigree status to Silver Age and Bronze Age collections, it makes sense that they would back off on their requirements for GA collections. I appreciate CGC recognizing the additional peds but what has changed that kept them from recognizing them initially. I do not think the criteria has changed. I understand reconsideration but it does seem odd that their recognition began after Voldy recognized this and other peds and regardless of intent, I do assume it does create an additional submissions and additional revenue. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) On 5/17/2020 at 6:39 PM, vheflin said: The 8.5 with the SMN initials is a Cookeville. It's cert #1970927007. The 9.0 with Edger on it is not a Cookeville, note that it's cert #1970927008, slabbed immediately after the 8.5. What likely happened is the grader had Cookeville selected in the label software correctly for the first book but didn't clear out the pedigree field when they entered the info. for the 9.0 so it was mislabeled. Update, what I have so far. HA responded they can't share the seller (presumably both came from same collection to auction) and that it really was a CGC question. However, they would stand behind refund should CGC note any error. CGC responded "I sent this to the graders to get further clarification and they said there can be more than one copy of the same book in a pedigree." Of course, this wasn't exactly the 100% clearest answer I was hoping for, so I have asked for further clarification/validation of this specific Police Comics issue. Stay tuned. Fyi, If anyone here bought the other with more traditional Cookeville markings - please reach out I'd love to buy it. Edited May 23, 2020 by path4play Larryw7, sagii and vheflin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walclark Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, path4play said: Update, what I have so far. HA responded they can't share the seller (presumably both came from same collection to auction) and that it really was a CGC question. However, they would stand behind refund should CGC note any error. CGC responded "I sent this to the graders to get further clarification and they said there can be more than one copy of the same book in a pedigree." Of course, this wasn't exactly the 100% clearest answer I was hoping for, so I have asked for further clarification/validation of this specific Police Comics issue. Stay tuned. Fyi, If anyone here bought the other with more traditional Cookeville markings - please reach out I'd love to buy it. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think your copy is the Cookeville copy. Mistakes happen. But who knows, it was a huge collection and maybe it is a unique book in the collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 hours ago, walclark said: Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think your copy is the Cookeville copy. Mistakes happen. But who knows, it was a huge collection and maybe it is a unique book in the collection. @Brittany M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vheflin Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Here's one I have Badger and BlowUpTheMoon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, vheflin said: Here's one I have Love it! greggy and vheflin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, MrBedrock said: Love it! Big fat SN right there, that's what I'm talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofsteel Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 My only Cookeville book. vheflin and Badger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 12:00 PM, walclark said: Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think your copy is the Cookeville copy. Mistakes happen. But who knows, it was a huge collection and maybe it is a unique book in the collection. Matt's going to look at it in hand. I trust he will get it straightened out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofsteel Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 6/5/2018 at 12:17 PM, Badger said: Were there any duplicates in Cookeville? There are 2 Tec 69's on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofsteel Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 My Supes 40 above has a cursive "S". Anyone know why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, manofsteel said: My Supes 40 above has a cursive "S". Anyone know why? I have seen at least one other with a cursive "S" so maybe she was just practicing. Cursive "S" example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) Would these be the same cursive "Sn"? Edited May 24, 2020 by Tri-ColorBrian Badger and manofsteel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 7:23 AM, path4play said: CGC responded "I sent this to the graders to get further clarification and they said there can be more than one copy of the same book in a pedigree." Extremely and ecstatically happy to hear this news since it's obvious then that the Dentist no longer has the only Church copy of Action Comics #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: Would these be the same cursive "Sn"? Love the colors on this book as it is my absolute favorite cover by a long shot out of the entire very short 8-issue run of the Miss Fury series of books. Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lady Luck Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Possibly? Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 10:23 AM, path4play said: Update, what I have so far. HA responded they can't share the seller (presumably both came from same collection to auction) and that it really was a CGC question. However, they would stand behind refund should CGC note any error. CGC responded "I sent this to the graders to get further clarification and they said there can be more than one copy of the same book in a pedigree." Of course, this wasn't exactly the 100% clearest answer I was hoping for, so I have asked for further clarification/validation of this specific Police Comics issue. Stay tuned. Fyi, If anyone here bought the other with more traditional Cookeville markings - please reach out I'd love to buy it. Turns out, was not a Cookeville. It was re-slabbed w/o pedigree and CGC was generous with rebating me. Sigh. Anyone have a Cookeville Police Comics? I would love to make a deal with you. walclark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayhawker Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 So were the sisters putting there initials on all the books that came in from the distributor or just on Leroy and his brothers books ? There could be multiples of all the books with the sisters initials on them. If they were putting books aside for Leroy then why wouldn't they just put his initials on them. Tri-Color Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walclark Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, jayhawker said: So were the sisters putting there initials on all the books that came in from the distributor or just on Leroy and his brothers books ? There could be multiples of all the books with the sisters initials on them. If they were putting books aside for Leroy then why wouldn't they just put his initials on them. That's a great point. I would guess they were putting their initials on every comic book that was sold at the store. Could this situation apply to other pedigrees that have store stamps or markings as the primary identifier? Still lots of questions that will never be answered about this pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post walclark Posted October 17, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 I was able to track down some additional information about the Cookeville Collection and thought the Board might find it interesting. I had the opportunity to talk to Jimmie Mackie, the younger brother of Leroy Mackie, and he was kind enough to share a few additional details about the collection. Leroy was born in 1930 and Jimmie in 1933. Their family lived on South Jefferson Avenue in Cookeville, not far from the town square. As the brothers got older, on Saturdays, their mother would give them each a dime and the boys would ride their bikes to the town square. Sometimes that dime would be spent at the picture show, but more often than not, the Mackie boys would head to Marchbanks Drug Store. This is where the boys bought the comics that would become known as the Cookeville Collection. Jimmie (who later changed his name to Jimmy and eventually to James because he told his mother that Jimmie was the way girls would spell that name) remembered that the pharmacy had a soda fountain and sometimes that dime was spent on a malted or a sundae. Often, he and Leroy would read the comics on the newsstand and eventually make a selection to take home. At home, their father had built on to the home and added an attic space for the boys to store their things. It was referred to as the “funny book room.” Jimmie remembered the room with built in shelves for them to stack their comic books and as a place for them to store their marbles. Apparently, he was quite the marble player and had amassed a fair number of them that were stored in a big bucket. I would guess that the fact that the comics were stored out of sight in the “funny book room” is probably what saved the collection that familiar fate of so many other collections…”mom threw away my comics.” The “funny book room” matches exactly with what Rick Frogge told me about the day that he, Harry Thomas, Geppi, and Overstreet went to move the collection out of the family home. Jimmie didn’t know a lot about the details of the sale. In fact, at that time, he didn’t know that Leroy had sold the comics. He found out a few years later. When cleaning out the house following the passing of their mother, Jimmie asked Leroy what happened to all the old comics and Leroy told him that silverfish had ruined them and he had thrown them out. It was only later that he found out that Leroy had been selling some of the comics over a few years and then made the bulk sale. Jimmie told me that Leroy was the big collector and only stopped buying comics when he joined the Air Force. Maybe that’s why he didn’t sound at all bitter about the fact that his brother had sold their comic collection without his knowledge. He told me that at one point Leroy had his daughters cataloging the comics, but he didn’t think those records exist anymore. As to the big mystery about the initials on the comics, unfortunately, the passage of time has erased that memory. Jimmie didn’t really remember the writing on the cover at all (I’m guessing that the clerks marking the covers and applying date stamps wasn’t that memorable to a kid that age). He remembered that it was a couple of the female shop clerks that made the sundaes and rang up the boys’ purchases and he’s certain that it’s their initials on the comics. And a note to CGC: despite what it says on the CGC website, the store clerks were sisters, but not the Mackie’s sisters. I’m thankful to Mr. Mackie for sharing his memories of the Cookeville Collection. He was a genuinely pleasant gentleman and we talked for a while about mutual acquaintances, his business, and his family. While there is still a lot that we don’t know about the collection, we now add Marchbanks Drug Store to the story. Silver_Couch_Surfer, Badger, Yorick and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...