Old Fashion PB and J Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Just sold mine for $700.00, I love that book. But damn I only paid $50.00 for the book and grading! I'll buy it again at $400.00 in a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkowl Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What's the "seasoned collecting market"? Another way of saying "long term investors"? The benchwork & quick flip crowd? Aging hardcore fandom? Serious question. Mostly number 1 with a sprinkle of number 3. The guys over in the GA and SA threads would roll their eyes at this entire conversation. Now I'm going to go buy a couple dozen raw Transformers #1's before the next movie with marky mark comes out. -J. Rolling their eyes? Hmm... I am a SA investor myself, and I really don't see the significance of that comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What's the "seasoned collecting market"? Another way of saying "long term investors"? The benchwork & quick flip crowd? Aging hardcore fandom? Serious question. Mostly number 1 with a sprinkle of number 3. The guys over in the GA and SA threads would roll their eyes at this entire conversation. Now I'm going to go buy a couple dozen raw Transformers #1's before the next movie with marky mark comes out. -J. My wife knows very little about comics, never heard of Deadpool. But she knows Harley, so do my other non collecting friends. I think Harley has 3 books that will hold some value for quite a while. I think a few investors got a little carried away, but I really doubt the book will drop much below $500. Mad love is also a good book which does nicely as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Layman awareness does not necessarily equate to long term value of what is a very dubious book, that only very recently spiked in value, despite being twenty years old. That alone should tell you it's a very bubbly book. And as we have learned time and again, bubbles pop. The character may still remain popular, but let's face it guys, BA 12 is a bit of a fraud book. Just sayin.... Kudos to all of you dealers and flippers who timed the market right and made money off it though. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Boy Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Regarding with BA12 and Harley Quinn... it's true that this character has a lot of appeal and there is room for more. However, it is in the CA group - not in the SA or GA and I just see it as an short term investment. I don't think will become a long-term... but then I could be wrong. We had said before when we think of other characters as like with BA12 in the past, and most of times we were wrong. However - if I ever do found one at a garage sale or flea market. I would flip it in sell than keep it. Use the profit toward long-term investment on a GA key copy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnboxingTreasures Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Layman awareness does not necessarily equate to long term value of what is a very dubious book, that only very recently spiked in value, despite being twenty years old. That alone should tell you it's a very bubbly book. And as we have learned time and again, bubbles pop. The character may still remain popular, but let's face it guys, BA 12 is a bit of a fraud book. Just sayin.... Kudos to all of you dealers and flippers who timed the market right and made money off it though. -J. What is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Layman awareness does not necessarily equate to long term value of what is a very dubious book, that only very recently spiked in value, despite being twenty years old. That alone should tell you it's a very bubbly book. And as we have learned time and again, bubbles pop. The character may still remain popular, but let's face it guys, BA 12 is a bit of a fraud book. Just sayin.... Kudos to all of you dealers and flippers who timed the market right and made money off it though. -J. What is? some porn movie apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclops Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Layman awareness does not necessarily equate to long term value of what is a very dubious book, that only very recently spiked in value, despite being twenty years old. That alone should tell you it's a very bubbly book. And as we have learned time and again, bubbles pop. The character may still remain popular, but let's face it guys, BA 12 is a bit of a fraud book. Just sayin.... Kudos to all of you dealers and flippers who timed the market right and made money off it though. -J. What is? She first appeared in the animated series. The content of the book does hold it down slightly, imo. There's no introduction like, "Hey, check out this new character Harley Quinn!!". She's just there, and you're supposed to know who it is from the TV show. Don't get me wrong, I love the book. It's just not a great first appearance story. I think her second appearance in Mad Love is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Over the long term, that's the danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Regarding with BA12 and Harley Quinn... it's true that this character has a lot of appeal and there is room for more. However, it is in the CA group Late-1993 should be MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Layman awareness does not necessarily equate to long term value of what is a very dubious book, that only very recently spiked in value, despite being twenty years old. That alone should tell you it's a very bubbly book. And as we have learned time and again, bubbles pop. The character may still remain popular, but let's face it guys, BA 12 is a bit of a fraud book. Just sayin.... Kudos to all of you dealers and flippers who timed the market right and made money off it though. -J. What is? She first appeared in the animated series. The content of the book does hold it down slightly, imo. There's no introduction like, "Hey, check out this new character Harley Quinn!!". She's just there, and you're supposed to know who it is from the TV show. Don't get me wrong, I love the book. It's just not a great first appearance story. I think her second appearance in Mad Love is better. Right that is a problem with the book. BA 12 is not a content driven collectible, it is more a dealer/speculator vehicle. Like when everyone realized how popular the character of harley Quinn was becoming/had become there was a mad dash by the dealers to figure out a way to capitalize on it, and BA 12 being her first "comic appearance" was their best choice, regardless of how weak it actually is. Since no comic book exists of her first appearance this was their next best option to pump. It wouldn't be any different if people started going all crazy over batman beyond #1 because it is the "1st comic book appearance of Terry Mcginnis". This fact alone will keep the book off from a lot of collectors' must have first appearance lists and leave a lot of comic book purists scratching their heads in bewilderment as to what it has sold for in the past. That's is why I (and plenty of others) don't see it as a long term investment book. Love the character, but keep it real with the book. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davenport Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Layman awareness does not necessarily equate to long term value of what is a very dubious book, that only very recently spiked in value, despite being twenty years old. That alone should tell you it's a very bubbly book. And as we have learned time and again, bubbles pop. The character may still remain popular, but let's face it guys, BA 12 is a bit of a fraud book. Just sayin.... Kudos to all of you dealers and flippers who timed the market right and made money off it though. -J. What is? Here's a 'review' of Batman TAS S01E22: "Joker's Favor" . There's a clip at 2:53 showing Harley's first ever appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Layman awareness does not necessarily equate to long term value of what is a very dubious book, that only very recently spiked in value, despite being twenty years old. That alone should tell you it's a very bubbly book. And as we have learned time and again, bubbles pop. The character may still remain popular, but let's face it guys, BA 12 is a bit of a fraud book. Just sayin.... Kudos to all of you dealers and flippers who timed the market right and made money off it though. -J. What is? She first appeared in the animated series. The content of the book does hold it down slightly, imo. There's no introduction like, "Hey, check out this new character Harley Quinn!!". She's just there, and you're supposed to know who it is from the TV show. Don't get me wrong, I love the book. It's just not a great first appearance story. I think her second appearance in Mad Love is better. So, BA12 = IH180, Mad Love = IH181 ? -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 So, BA12 = IH180, Mad Love = IH181 ? Nope, BA 12 - SW 1 and Mad Love = SW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I know, but I wanted to post my valid comparison for those without a sense of sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Since no comic book exists of her first appearance this was their next best option to pump. It wouldn't be any different if people started going all crazy over batman beyond #1 because it is the "1st comic book appearance of Terry Mcginnis". A bit off topic but Superman/Batman Annual 4 already fetches decent money, especially the 2nd print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclops Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I honestly believe the fact that BA 12 is not actually the character's first appearance and is more a comic book adaptation of a cartoon character will keep it from being taken seriously by a lot of collectors. Layman awareness does not necessarily equate to long term value of what is a very dubious book, that only very recently spiked in value, despite being twenty years old. That alone should tell you it's a very bubbly book. And as we have learned time and again, bubbles pop. The character may still remain popular, but let's face it guys, BA 12 is a bit of a fraud book. Just sayin.... Kudos to all of you dealers and flippers who timed the market right and made money off it though. -J. What is? She first appeared in the animated series. The content of the book does hold it down slightly, imo. There's no introduction like, "Hey, check out this new character Harley Quinn!!". She's just there, and you're supposed to know who it is from the TV show. Don't get me wrong, I love the book. It's just not a great first appearance story. I think her second appearance in Mad Love is better. So, BA12 = IH180, Mad Love = IH181 ? -slym Love it! (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I know, but I wanted to post my valid comparison for those without a sense of sarcasm. Heh. -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...