29dukedog Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Is this Stan Lee on the cover of My Own Romance #12??? Yes, I think it's believed to be. "'Nuff said, ma'am." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Do I hear the sound of all you "love collectors" adding it to your want lists? I should have kept my mouth shut. There goes my chances of getting a high grade copy now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Mentallo Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I dont think it's Stan. This looks like a B movie still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The same question was posed by Boot back in '13. The consensus was nyet. Do Either Of These Photo Covers Show STAN LEE? Here's my humble copy of 12. My Own Romance is a great Marvel run. It's a continuation of My Romance (1-3), Marvel's furious and belated response to S & K's dominating early lead in the newly created market. As much as Goodman probably didn't like having his nose rubbed in it by the "help", all the publishers must have been horrified by the rumours of S & K's profit sharing deal with Prize. Prize Comics, a small publisher that also owned their own printing press, agreed to give Simon and Kirby 50% of the profits. Simon believes this was the first royalty agreement for creators in comic books. This issue sold out its original 500,000 print run. It was soon selling 1 million copies a month. The book was distributed by Independent News, part of the DC Comics companies. Timely/Marvel Comics owner Martin Goodman complained to Harry Donenfeld, owner of DC Comics and Independent News about Young Romance. He said that "love comics for kids" bordered on "pornography" and would "do irreparable harm to the field." Donenfeld then had Prize remove the "Designed for the more ADULT readers of COMICS" line from the cover. So there was more at stake here than market share - this sort of unheard of collaboration had to be stopped, and stopped good. Failing with other measures, watching dollars pass him by, Goodman decided to compete instead. My Romance, another 52 pager and covers drawn by Christopher Rule, was his response. As they were probably losing out in a head to head contest between Kirby on one side and Victor Fox (#3 into the market) on the other, Goodman decided to change strategies and switched the title to photocover in March 1949. At this point there was another photocover outfit to compete with - another big dog, Fawcett (#4 into the market). And they were churning out a monthly, which no one else had the balls to do. But their photocovers were sweet, all American, happy, and upbeat. That left some room to try something different. My Own Romance was it. Starting at #4, they were campy, strange, different, funny. Crazy word balloons attached to weird photos. It didn't last long, though. Things changed quickly. The world of romance was like the life cycle of the fruit fly - brief and intense. I'll post my copies of what I have on this run later. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Thanks for the background. The profit sharing with creators was quite a giant leap for S&K and I wonder why this wasn't implemented in their other deals, with other creators, specifically all the work Kirby did with Marvel. They needed a good agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The same question was posed by Boot back in '13. The consensus was nyet. Do Either Of These Photo Covers Show STAN LEE? Here's my humble copy of 12. My Own Romance is a great Marvel run. It's a continuation of My Romance (1-3), Marvel's furious and belated response to S & K's dominating early lead in the newly created market. As much as Goodman probably didn't like having his nose rubbed in it by the "help", all the publishers must have been horrified by the rumours of S & K's profit sharing deal with Prize. Prize Comics, a small publisher that also owned their own printing press, agreed to give Simon and Kirby 50% of the profits. Simon believes this was the first royalty agreement for creators in comic books. This issue sold out its original 500,000 print run. It was soon selling 1 million copies a month. The book was distributed by Independent News, part of the DC Comics companies. Timely/Marvel Comics owner Martin Goodman complained to Harry Donenfeld, owner of DC Comics and Independent News about Young Romance. He said that "love comics for kids" bordered on "pornography" and would "do irreparable harm to the field." Donenfeld then had Prize remove the "Designed for the more ADULT readers of COMICS" line from the cover. So there was more at stake here than market share - this sort of unheard of collaboration had to be stopped, and stopped good. Failing with other measures, watching dollars pass him by, Goodman decided to compete instead. My Romance, another 52 pager and covers drawn by Christopher Rule, was his response. As they were probably losing out in a head to head contest between Kirby on one side and Victor Fox (#3 into the market) on the other, Goodman decided to change strategies and switched the title to photocover in March 1949. At this point there was another photocover outfit to compete with - another big dog, Fawcett (#4 into the market). And they were churning out a monthly, which no one else had the balls to do. But their photocovers were sweet, all American, happy, and upbeat. That left some room to try something different. My Own Romance was it. Starting at #4, they were campy, strange, different, funny. Crazy word balloons attached to weird photos. It didn't last long, though. Things changed quickly. The world of romance was like the life cycle of the fruit fly - brief and intense. I'll post my copies of what I have on this run later. I wonder if anyone ever brought one to a con to get Stan's sig and he said, "No, it's not me"? Not that Stan is ever reluctant to sign books he had little or nothing to do with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) As has been noted, the book that is definitely Stanley, the Black Rider 8, has 9 sig slabs. And that's on a book where Stan is in a mask that covers all but his eyes. I think it's reasonable to assume that if Stan was on the cover of either My Own Romance 6 or 12, it would have been acted on prior to this. Comicnoir, you are welcome. (thumbs u I believe the Prize arrangement with S & K was a marriage of convenience and opportunity. Prize couldn't afford to pay S & K but had a press, S & K couldn't afford to print but had a property, everyone took a risk and shared in the profits. I read that S & K had shopped the concept around with no takers. Prize might have been the end of the line. Just another fascinating aspect of the Greatest Story Never Told. Did I ever tell you guys that in order to get my doctorate in romance, my dissertation was on "The Float: How Women Provided the Liquidity to Bridge the Post-War Chasm"? Thank the ladies, gents. If not for our moms and grandmoms, we probably wouldn't be the fan boys we are today. Edited March 11, 2015 by Dr. Love 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 As has been noted, the book that is definitely Stanley, the Black Rider 8, has 9 sig slabs. And that's on a book where Stan is in a mask that covers all but his eyes. I think it's reasonable to assume that if Stan was on the cover of either My Own Romance 6 or 12, it would have been acted on prior to this. Comicnoir, you are welcome. (thumbs u I believe the Prize arrangement with S & K was a marriage of convenience and opportunity. Prize couldn't afford to pay S & K but had a press, S & K couldn't afford to print but had a property, everyone took a risk and shared in the profits. I read that S & K had shopped the concept around with no takers. Prize might have been the end of the line. Just another fascinating aspect of the Greatest Story Never Told. Did I ever tell you guys that in order to get my doctorate in romance, my dissertation was on "The Float: How Women Provided the Liquidity to Bridge the Post-War Chasm"? Thank the ladies, gents. If not for our moms and grandmoms, we probably wouldn't be the fan boys we are today. We owe our moms and grandmoms everything, at least I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The same question was posed by Boot back in '13. The consensus was nyet. Do Either Of These Photo Covers Show STAN LEE? Here's my humble copy of 12. My Own Romance is a great Marvel run. It's a continuation of My Romance (1-3), Marvel's furious and belated response to S & K's dominating early lead in the newly created market. As much as Goodman probably didn't like having his nose rubbed in it by the "help", all the publishers must have been horrified by the rumours of S & K's profit sharing deal with Prize. Prize Comics, a small publisher that also owned their own printing press, agreed to give Simon and Kirby 50% of the profits. Simon believes this was the first royalty agreement for creators in comic books. This issue sold out its original 500,000 print run. It was soon selling 1 million copies a month. The book was distributed by Independent News, part of the DC Comics companies. Timely/Marvel Comics owner Martin Goodman complained to Harry Donenfeld, owner of DC Comics and Independent News about Young Romance. He said that "love comics for kids" bordered on "pornography" and would "do irreparable harm to the field." Donenfeld then had Prize remove the "Designed for the more ADULT readers of COMICS" line from the cover. So there was more at stake here than market share - this sort of unheard of collaboration had to be stopped, and stopped good. Failing with other measures, watching dollars pass him by, Goodman decided to compete instead. My Romance, another 52 pager and covers drawn by Christopher Rule, was his response. As they were probably losing out in a head to head contest between Kirby on one side and Victor Fox (#3 into the market) on the other, Goodman decided to change strategies and switched the title to photocover in March 1949. At this point there was another photocover outfit to compete with - another big dog, Fawcett (#4 into the market). And they were churning out a monthly, which no one else had the balls to do. But their photocovers were sweet, all American, happy, and upbeat. That left some room to try something different. My Own Romance was it. Starting at #4, they were campy, strange, different, funny. Crazy word balloons attached to weird photos. It didn't last long, though. Things changed quickly. The world of romance was like the life cycle of the fruit fly - brief and intense. I'll post my copies of what I have on this run later. I wonder if anyone ever brought one to a con to get Stan's sig and he said, "No, it's not me"? Not that Stan is ever reluctant to sign books he had little or nothing to do with. I think for 50 bucks he'd sign just about anything you put in front of him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 As has been noted, the book that is definitely Stanley, the Black Rider 8, has 9 sig slabs. And that's on a book where Stan is in a mask that covers all but his eyes. I think it's reasonable to assume that if Stan was on the cover of either My Own Romance 6 or 12, it would have been acted on prior to this. Comicnoir, you are welcome. (thumbs u I believe the Prize arrangement with S & K was a marriage of convenience and opportunity. Prize couldn't afford to pay S & K but had a press, S & K couldn't afford to print but had a property, everyone took a risk and shared in the profits. I read that S & K had shopped the concept around with no takers. Prize might have been the end of the line. Just another fascinating aspect of the Greatest Story Never Told. Did I ever tell you guys that in order to get my doctorate in romance, my dissertation was on "The Float: How Women Provided the Liquidity to Bridge the Post-War Chasm"? Thank the ladies, gents. If not for our moms and grandmoms, we probably wouldn't be the fan boys we are today. We owe our moms and grandmoms everything, at least I do. I'm still pissed my mom threw out my Marvel comics collection... But I love her anyway, she fostered my love of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 As has been noted, the book that is definitely Stanley, the Black Rider 8, has 9 sig slabs. And that's on a book where Stan is in a mask that covers all but his eyes. I think it's reasonable to assume that if Stan was on the cover of either My Own Romance 6 or 12, it would have been acted on prior to this. Comicnoir, you are welcome. (thumbs u I believe the Prize arrangement with S & K was a marriage of convenience and opportunity. Prize couldn't afford to pay S & K but had a press, S & K couldn't afford to print but had a property, everyone took a risk and shared in the profits. I read that S & K had shopped the concept around with no takers. Prize might have been the end of the line. Just another fascinating aspect of the Greatest Story Never Told. Did I ever tell you guys that in order to get my doctorate in romance, my dissertation was on "The Float: How Women Provided the Liquidity to Bridge the Post-War Chasm"? Thank the ladies, gents. If not for our moms and grandmoms, we probably wouldn't be the fan boys we are today. We owe our moms and grandmoms everything, at least I do. I'm still pissed my mom threw out my Marvel comics collection... But I love her anyway, she fostered my love of music. My mom never threw out my comics. She threatened to if I didn't come by and take them away, since she was renting out my old room. R.I.P. Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 To all the women in our lives. I've mentioned in passing the different phases I went through as my collecting began to pivot and focus on romance. You really have to get how uproariously I laughed when I saw my first GA romance book back in the early 90's. How droll! How amusing! Back then, at the periphery of my cultural consciousness, I was vaguely aware of Roy Lichtenstein and something to do with romance comics in the 60's, but my overall perception was that the connection was mocking, in some way, mocking. Along the way, as my knowledge of the history of the genre grew, it dawned on me that love books were the dedicated purchase of one group, and one group only. It wasn't us; it was them. It began to weigh on me that their collective ginormous preference, as it had come to life, was our biggest joke, some bizarre thing in our midst: romance, yeh right. And so one day I swore an oath: In brightest day, in blackest night... No, not that oath! That's a tale for another time! I became determined that I would gather the finest examples of this work I could get, and that I would persist till I reached the end of the romance line or the end of the dollars I could spend on this. That this thing that belonged to them, to the women, wouldn't pass unnoticed into the night, unvalued, uncared for. I would collect it into one place and caretake it...for them. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Also, I dig em! Back to Marvel. Here's their roll out, as the first responder to the crisis in their midst: S & K's Young Romance was walking away with the store. My Romance #1 (September, 1948) 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 My Romance #2 (November, 1948) 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 My Romance #3 (January, 1949) 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 As mentioned, the big switchover to the photocover format. New title change, too. My Own Romance #4 (March, 1949) 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 My Own Romance #5 (May, 1949) 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 My Own Romance #7 (July, 1949) 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 My Own Romance #8 (August, 1949) 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 My Own Romance #10 (December, 1949) 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
