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[mysterio]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

[VintageComics]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

Comic book pulp paper shrinks over time naturally as well. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

 

[Ditch Fahrenheit]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

I noticed Greg Reece has one with only minor miswrap.

 

[whomerjay]

which of you participated in this war?

 

http://www.comiclink.com/Auctions/item.asp?back=%2FComicTrack%2FAuctions%2Fbids%2Easp&id=1025709

 

I took a serious run at this one and was the underbidder. Even though I saved some money by not picking this up, have to say I was pretty disappointed. I was going to put a bid in on the 62, but by the time I refreshed the page, that auction had ended too, so I did not even get to bid on that book.

 

 

IMO prices for HG Planets and many (but not all) similar GA Sci-Fi or GGA have been constrained to date. Sometimes book has gone a high % over GPA because someone pushes the very small number of big spenders who have had their way with this market. I think the mindset has been these are great books but we should be able to get them at (something cheap). I think all we need is a few new aggressive players for these Jungles, Jumbos, Planets, etc and typical prices for these books will be much higher. I just don't have a great sense about how many of these HG Planets are really out there and how patient/aggressive one should be when something nice comes up. I did decide a long time ago these books should have staying power and the number of people wanting these books will continue to increase.

 

Before someone mentions it I know most Jungles and Jumbos don't rate with Planets, but in so many instances they sell amazingly low.

 

being a Sci-Fi collector without a big budget I hear you. But I think the Planets already enjoy a typically good return on the higher grade copies (for non-super hero books)... but that might just be me.

 

As I have been a very fanatical purchaser of Planet Comics for the last year I can chime in. As I mentioned in the GA section Comiclink thread:

High grade planets are not easy to come by, and for whatever reason issue 61 in anything above 6.0 grade is very hard to locate: trust me I have been looking for a higher than VG copy for a year and a half. I am not surprised by the final price here.

Wonderful copy, very strong colors and very nicely centered with white pages. Just slightly over 2x overstreet. Congrats to the winner! ( Not me ) I purchased a 7.5 off Worldwide Comics a few days before this 9.2 was posted. Had I not purchased the 7.5 I would have been all over this 9.2 and my estimated bid would have been 1750 which is 2x guide.

 

I was sad to see these ones go, but have held onto many other good ones. Its a great run to collect. Same with Mystery in Space, which does not seem to get as much love, but they too can have very fun covers, great colors and its a real challenge finding them in high grade. Congrats to the winners.

 

There are lots of people putting together this run, a number with deep pockets for sure. I have always loved this run, but wish like most collectors prices were more stagnant than they are. I still have roughly 50 books to complete the run, not sure if that will ever be in a position to complete the run given the continuing price trend of these books. I tend to collect only 7.0 and higher for this title, so that makes thing very competitive with other buyers out there. Congrats to the buyer of the #61, it is a sweet book. The only plus of the higher prices is it tends to promote more sellers of the books looking to cash in on the trend. I have noticed a lot more Planets for sale over the last 18 months than I have ever seen in my 12 years of collecting as an adult.

Happy collecting all!

Jason

 

I've tried to take an aggressive approach to buying HG Planets over the last 10 years but haven't been willing to go much over GPA on most books. Guess I'll have to rethink that strategy now. Also, for some books GPA sales are sparse or have not occurred for years, which makes difficult the calculation of a competitive bid.

 

Got my 61 8 years ago but still looking for HG 60, 62, 69, 71.

[mysterio]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

I noticed Greg Reece has one with only minor miswrap.

 

 

That's the best one I've seen, thanks for showing it!

[musicmeta]

Nothing this time around. Too many crazy bids!

[Kystix]

I only was really interested / close to winning two books. I was the underbidder @$250 on this beauty.

 

But really wanted the 9.6 FF 84. I think it has a shot at being the 6th 9.8 But $210 was $20 over my final bid. Oh well.

 

 

Also got blown away on the Captain Marvel #1 and Iron Man #1s but I'm use to that!

 

-Kystix

[Kystix]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

I noticed Greg Reece has one with only minor miswrap.

 

 

 

IMO my copy isn't too bad. Well in the miswrap department. Its not too pretty condition wise however.

 

[Sqeggs]

my evil side was happy to see a book that I tried to buy privately, sell for the same amount I offered. The guy tried to squeeze some extra $$ out of me with a BS story about another buyer being interested. I stood by my offer, he tried to get more, I walked away. (Then he came back a week later saying the other buyer backed out, and would I want it at that price. I continued to walk away)

 

Book just sold in the auction at the same amount I offered, so he's out what ever CLinks commission is (what is their standard commission?) by trying to squeeze me for a few extra buckaroos.

 

I probably would have been willing to go higher than my offer if the seller had just been straight with me that he wanted more... I aint got time for shenanigans.

Just takes a month+ to complete the transaction.

 

are you saying CLink doesnt take any cut of the total sale price?

making a deal here pray a show or a shop or even eBay can be wrapped up usually in a few days. Auction houses usually take over a month to ship a book or send you funds from a sale. Time is money. Not saying anything about commissions at all. Just wait time. I factor it when I make decisions about buying and selling.

 

Don't recall every waiting that long for a book to arrive. True even of CLink, where I usually pay by check to avoid the cc fee.

[Sqeggs]

How do I check to see the results of some of the auctions? I tried to do a search of the site and nothing came up. I'm curious what the Batman 3 and the Jimmy Olsen 134 9.4/9.6 ended at.

 

Use this search feature:

 

Click here

 

Nice! Never knew my car was worth so little

Call and ask, if you really must know

 

Thanks. And is it just me or did almost all the Sale Pending info on the site disappear overnight.

 

Not sure about that..but in all seriousness, you can click on the auction banner and it'll take you to all the items. The sold ones just are cycled to the back of the 41 pages. So you'll just have to either search for the item in question or go to that particular page.

 

Many thanks.

 

I've found the best way to keep track of CLink results is to get in early low-ball tracking bids. That way the hammer prices show up on your "My Bids" page. I bid on dozens of books that I have no expectation of winning just to see what they ended up selling for.

[mysterio]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

I noticed Greg Reece has one with only minor miswrap.

 

 

 

IMO my copy isn't too bad. Well in the miswrap department. Its not too pretty condition wise however.

 

 

Yeah, that is another beautifully centered example, thanks!

[InvstmntComcSuply]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps...

 

Comic book pulp paper shrinks over time naturally as well. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

I am with mysterio. Especially after the "incredibly shrinking covers" thread.

[Silver Surfer]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

Comic book pulp paper shrinks over time naturally as well. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

 

Especially when hammered with excessive pressing techniques. Let's not try and sugar coat this as there have been too many examples of this within the last year. Natural shrinkage is not the main reason these books look like , Costanza.

[gsolol]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

Comic book pulp paper shrinks over time naturally as well. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

 

 

 

Especially when hammered with excessive pressing techniques. Let's not try and sugar coat this as there have been too many examples of this within the last year. Natural shrinkage is not the main reason these books look like , Costanza.

 

 

+1 this looks like a bad press.

[Gotham Kid]

Let's not try and sugar coat this as there have been too many examples of this within the last year. Natural shrinkage is not the main reason these books look like , Costanza.

 

This.

[VintageComics]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

Comic book pulp paper shrinks over time naturally as well. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

 

Especially when hammered with excessive pressing techniques. Let's not try and sugar coat this as there have been too many examples of this within the last year. Natural shrinkage is not the main reason these books look like , Costanza.

 

Nobody said that natural shrinkage is the main reason, people.

 

All I said was that it is a possibility.

 

Throwing out definitive statements like 'it's a bad press job' is a 50% guess at best and doesn't really add much value to the coversation.

 

Nobody is asking for sugar coating. Just a little balance.

[InvstmntComcSuply]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

Comic book pulp paper shrinks over time naturally as well. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

 

Especially when hammered with excessive pressing techniques. Let's not try and sugar coat this as there have been too many examples of this within the last year. Natural shrinkage is not the main reason these books look like , Costanza.

 

Nobody said that natural shrinkage is the main reason, people.

 

All I said was that it is a possibility.

 

Throwing out definitive statements like 'it's a bad press job' is a 50% guess at best and doesn't really add much value to the conversation.

 

Nobody is asking for sugar coating. Just a little balance.

 

I think the consensus was that on high technical grade books the vast majority exhibiting this much newsprint beyond the coverstock on both front and back was due to a bad press job. So 50% is disingenuous.

[campued1010]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

Comic book pulp paper shrinks over time naturally as well. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

 

Especially when hammered with excessive pressing techniques. Let's not try and sugar coat this as there have been too many examples of this within the last year. Natural shrinkage is not the main reason these books look like , Costanza.

 

Nobody said that natural shrinkage is the main reason, people.

 

All I said was that it is a possibility.

 

Throwing out definitive statements like 'it's a bad press job' is a 50% guess at best and doesn't really add much value to the coversation.

 

Nobody is asking for sugar coating. Just a little balance.

 

Roy, are you trying to tell me after all that has been posted on these boards and the the countless pictures of books that we know were pressed and look exactly like this that we are to believe that the paper possibly shrunk? Let me know when Santa and the Easter Bunny visit I would like to say hello!!!!

[VintageComics]

If I ever see a perfectly centered X-Men #25 I'll have to buy it on general principle. I've never seen a copy that wasn't terribly miswrapped into a 2 cent arvel, and I've seen a few copies of that book.

 

 

Do you think the 25 looks like that from a bad miswrap or a bad press job ? Or a combination of both ?

 

Combination of both. That paper showing on the right edge is a side effect of the press, in all likelihood. But #25 is notorious for bad miswraps. Every copy I've seen of that book has had a significant front to back miswrap like that copy. I'd love it if someone could post a scan of one that isn't miswrapped just so I could see one.

 

Comic book pulp paper shrinks over time naturally as well. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

 

Especially when hammered with excessive pressing techniques. Let's not try and sugar coat this as there have been too many examples of this within the last year. Natural shrinkage is not the main reason these books look like , Costanza.

 

Nobody said that natural shrinkage is the main reason, people.

 

All I said was that it is a possibility.

 

Throwing out definitive statements like 'it's a bad press job' is a 50% guess at best and doesn't really add much value to the conversation.

 

Nobody is asking for sugar coating. Just a little balance.

 

I think the consensus was that on high technical grade books the vast majority exhibiting this much newsprint beyond the coverstock on both front and back was due to a bad press job. So 50% is disingenuous.

 

There was also a large number of vintage comic dealers who came on in those threads and stated that this is also a long time, well known phenomenon for (primarily) Marvel SA books even pre pressing / pre CGC - so it's not actually disingenuous. It's really just a matter of what you are used to seeing.

 

It's like when I owned my first minivan. I got a white one because I thought it was original. I soon realized that my point of reference had changed and there were lots of white minivans exactly like mine all over the place.

 

The salesman on the other hand had probably sold a trillion of them.

 

Anyhow, I'm trying not to make this another useless pressing thread and just trying to show that unless you have before and after proof, it's just a guess.

[VintageComics]

First off, I don't know why people try and make this personal and start hurling insults.

 

Roy, are you trying to tell me after all that has been posted on these boards and the the countless pictures of books that we know were pressed and look exactly like this that we are to believe that the paper possibly shrunk? Let me know when Santa and the Easter Bunny visit I would like to say hello!!!!

 

2nd, the paper does indeed change shape based on temperature and moisture change. That much is a fact.

 

The causes of the change (whether man made, poor storage conditions, pressing or reading in an outhouse) are all outright speculation unless you've actually documented a particular sample.

 

Was this cover shrunken due to pressing? It couldn't have been, because the comic wasn't pressed (or trimmed). So what happened to the cover?

 

We can speculate until the cows come home.