Chaos_in_Canada Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 22 hours ago, paperheart said: Will ‘Black Panther’ earn more Oscar nominations than ‘The Dark Knight’? https://www.goldderby.com/article/2018/black-panther-oscars-the-dark-knight-news-846205937/ Yes. Who cares about The Dark Knight in 2018. More people talk about another Superhero flick from ten years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 14 hours ago, Chaos_in_Canada said: Yes. Who cares about The Dark Knight in 2018. More people talk about another Superhero flick from ten years ago. wut Iron Man? The Incredible Hulk? Hellboy II? War Zone? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 2 hours ago, TwoPiece said: wut Iron Man? The Incredible Hulk? Hellboy II? War Zone? No. The only Studio that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chaos_in_Canada said: The only Studio that matters. I love Iron Man as much as anyone, but it'll never be as good as The Dark Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: I love Iron Man as much as anyone, but it'll never be as good as The Dark Knight. The first IM movie had a greater impact/influence on Ryan Coogler, director of BP. And here we are, 10 years later and hopefully BP will be nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkman Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 On 12/21/2018 at 7:27 AM, TwoPiece said: I love Iron Man as much as anyone, but it'll never be as good as The Dark Knight. You're right. It's just slightly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb8 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 On 12/21/2018 at 10:37 AM, Chaos_in_Canada said: The first IM movie had a greater impact/influence on Ryan Coogler, director of BP. And here we are, 10 years later and hopefully BP will be nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. Best picture? Really? I mean it was ok. But...best picture nomination? I don’t think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, bb8 said: Best picture? Really? I mean it was ok. But...best picture nomination? I don’t think so. Let me guess, you don't own a CGC FF52? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb8 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, Chaos_in_Canada said: Let me guess, you don't own a CGC FF52? I actually have a copy (kind of an impulse eBay buy) but it’s not graded. I like the character and I liked the movie but it didn’t warrant the media attention from a quality perspective that it received. Culturally I don’t think it was overly earth-shattering either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, bb8 said: I actually have a copy (kind of an impulse eBay buy) but it’s not graded. I like the character and I liked the movie but it didn’t warrant the media attention from a quality perspective that it received. Culturally I don’t think it was overly earth-shattering either. Really? I don't believe you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb8 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, Chaos_in_Canada said: Really? I don't believe you I SWEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkman Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, bb8 said: Best picture? Really? I mean it was ok. But...best picture nomination? I don’t think so. Yes, it was that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, bb8 said: I SWEAR Okay bb8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandGothic Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 If anything, Michael B. Jordan might see a nomination (a really promising young actor, not sure after Creed II though,) as well as technical noms. Black Panther is part of a billion $ franchise, whose character reappeared in a billion $ Avengers sequel (and got "killed off." ) Academy jealousy of success tends to factor in, when little movies get lost in the shuffle. But, I have been wrong before about this before when Titanic sweeped the night away from LA Confidential in '97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 hour ago, bb8 said: Best picture? Really? I mean it was ok. But...best picture nomination? I don’t think so. practically a sure thing https://www.goldderby.com/awardshows/expert-predictions/oscars-nominations-2019/sort/recent/ ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
▫️ Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/21/2018 at 7:57 PM, TwoPiece said: I love Iron Man as much as anyone, but it'll never be as good as The Dark Knight. I don't believe there is a single comic book movie that resonates like Dark Knight. Iron Man and Black Panther were great popcorn fun but pretty much on par with about four other Marvel movies in terms of quality. In Dark Knight, I hated the Bat suit and thought Bale was not a good fit at all for either Bruce or Batman. Don't get me started on the voice. And yet its still a monumental film. Its not often a comic book film dares to become something more, in this case a psychological neo-noir thriller. And it annoys me that we haven't seen that level attained in any other comic book movie to date. I'm not a kid anymore and don't leave the theater high-fiving my buddy talking about Easter eggs or end credit surprises. I want to contemplate what I just watched long into the evening. Of course I'm not Marvel's target audience either. They make the masses happy and make money so there's no reason to take a risk and make something thought provoking like Dark Knight. So what happened to DC? They just got cocky after that and made some huge miscalculations. Who knows how long it will take to right this ship now. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandGothic Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 56 minutes ago, Oddball said: I don't believe there is a single comic book movie that resonates like Dark Knight. Iron Man and Black Panther were great popcorn fun but pretty much on par with about four other Marvel movies in terms of quality. In Dark Knight, I hated the Bat suit and thought Bale was not a good fit at all for either Bruce or Batman. Don't get me started on the voice. And yet its still a monumental film. Its not often a comic book film dares to become something more, in this case a psychological neo-noir thriller. And it annoys me that we haven't seen that level attained in any other comic book movie to date. I'm not a kid anymore and don't leave the theater high-fiving my buddy talking about Easter eggs or end credit surprises. I want to contemplate what I just watched long into the evening. Of course I'm not Marvel's target audience either. They make the masses happy and make money so there's no reason to take a risk and make something thought provoking like Dark Knight. So what happened to DC? They just got cocky after that and made some huge miscalculations. Who knows how long it will take to right this ship now. Another question is... twenty years from now will you be still watching most of the Marvel films, even Iron Man? I know, like Batman Forever, I don't see myself watching just about all the current DC films. The Dark Knight was about something (for example a comment on violence in society.) It's a time capsule of our times (trying not to get political<) that doesn't feel like "product" (Avengers: Infinity War.) Black Panther is a solid movie, but not a Best Picture. It's a step in the right direction for "funny book" movies though. I wouldn't mind seeing a grittier installment to the franchise down the road. To me "Black Panther" feels like a slicker "Batman Begins," meaning "full of promise." I used to collect every comic book movie on DVD and Blu Ray. But, now I can admit, these movies hit their critical peak in 2008, with The Dark Knight. Logan, Iron Man, The Avengers, Guardians, Deadpool 2 coming really close. But, I'll keep watching them (Venom,) like my father watched westerns for thirty years, hoping one day to find another masterpiece, like "Unforgiven." Never say never. bentbryan, ▫️ and Mr Sneeze 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 12 hours ago, Oddball said: I don't believe there is a single comic book movie that resonates like Dark Knight. Iron Man and Black Panther were great popcorn fun but pretty much on par with about four other Marvel movies in terms of quality. In Dark Knight, I hated the Bat suit and thought Bale was not a good fit at all for either Bruce or Batman. Don't get me started on the voice. And yet its still a monumental film. Its not often a comic book film dares to become something more, in this case a psychological neo-noir thriller. And it annoys me that we haven't seen that level attained in any other comic book movie to date. I'm not a kid anymore and don't leave the theater high-fiving my buddy talking about Easter eggs or end credit surprises. I want to contemplate what I just watched long into the evening. Of course I'm not Marvel's target audience either. They make the masses happy and make money so there's no reason to take a risk and make something thought provoking like Dark Knight. So what happened to DC? They just got cocky after that and made some huge miscalculations. Who knows how long it will take to right this ship now. There is a movie...Black Panther & 700 million reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
▫️ Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Chaos_in_Canada said: There is a movie...Black Panther & 700 million reasons If that 700 million refers to box office, it’s something that is no indicator of the quality of a movie in my eyes. How many billions has the Transformers franchise accumulated? Though I did hear the last one was pretty good. And as I said before, I thought Black Panther was great. I’ll also add that it’s more rewatchable than The Dark Knight for me. But comparing the two is like comparing Heat to Den of Thieves. Larryw7 and NewEnglandGothic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Oddball said: If that 700 million refers to box office, it’s something that is no indicator of the quality of a movie in my eyes. How many billions has the Transformers franchise accumulated? Though I did hear the last one was pretty good. And as I said before, I thought Black Panther was great. I’ll also add that it’s more rewatchable than The Dark Knight for me. But comparing the two is like comparing Heat to Den of Thieves. Sorry, you're in the minority. The top five domestic BO movies are, SW:TFA, Avatar, BP, A:IW & Titanic. All top notch movies. Comparing domestic BO results is a good indicator of the movie's quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...