INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE (6/24/16)

[Bosco685]

 

 

 

 

[Chip Cataldo]

I like those. Neat!

[TheLiamSturgess]

Now, food for thought... Fox has embargoed reviews until release day, AND cancelled the press screening I was meant to attend. I'm not sure if that's widespread, but if it is...

[Bosco685]

Uh-ohhhh.

 

[TheLiamSturgess]

Let's just say that in my very short time paying attention to movies, the only other one I've seen that happen for is FF.

[Bosco685]

Let's just say that in my very short time paying attention to movies, the only other one I've seen that happen for is FF.

 

I won't even watch that movie for free on Cable. It would bother me too much.

 

[Bosco685]

 

Sam Neill's response was great!

 

[Bosco685]

Is this starting to look better?

 

 

 

 

 

[Bosco685]

Huh?

 

INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Director Reveals Why He's Not Interested In "Silly" Marvel Movies

 

Roland Emmerich has become known for making movies which essentially amount to little more than disaster porn, and the vast majority of the time, those are pretty awful. However, it turns out that even he turns his nose up at the increasingly popular superhero genre, something which is evident from a recent interview the Independence Day: Resurgence director took part in with The Guardian.

 

According to the site, the filmmaker is "filled with disdain" at the notion that his movies are in any way similar to comic book adaptations, and he went on to explain why that is. "When you look at my movies it’s always the regular Joe Schmo that’s the unlikely hero. A lot of Marvel movies, they show people in funny suits running around. I don’t like people in capes. I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies. I don’t understand it. I grew up in Germany, that’s probably why."

 

So I guess Germany doesn't have comic book fans?!

 

[cousin itt]

This review seems fairly positive:

 

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/independence-day/41199/independence-day-resurgence-review

[Gatsby77]

This is gonna' bomb.

 

Not quite Warcraft-style bomb (which looks like it will become only the second movie to hit $400 million worldwide having not managed to hit $100 million domestic -- Terminator Genysis was the first)

 

But it will fade fast in the face of warm summer weather and other competing blockbusters.

 

(July 1 alone is going to cream it, with The BFG, Tarzan and Purge 3 all coming in hot).

 

So...I'm thinking comparative-summer-blockbuster bomb.

 

I predict a ceiling of $600 million worldwide. Let's call it $190 million U.S., $400 million foreign.

 

At those numbers it will likely be profitable (barely) but the original hit nearly $600 million domestic alone, after adjusting for inflation.

[Bosco685]

Independence Day: Resurgence Pulls In $4 Million On Opening Night

 

The sequel to the 1996 epic, Independence Day: Resurgence debuted on Thursday and took in $4 million from 3,200 locations.

 

Now that number includes the double feature screenings as well, but still, it's a pretty solid number for a film with 20 years in between instalments (via Box Office Mojo). Films that have had similar lengthy gaps between sequels have drawn in numbers close to $50 million, those being Men in Black III and Prometheus, and this film needs a debut like that to justify that $165 million dollar budget.

[paperheart]

This is gonna' bomb.

 

Not quite Warcraft-style bomb (which looks like it will become only the second movie to hit $400 million worldwide having not managed to hit $100 million domestic -- Terminator Genysis was the first)

 

But it will fade fast in the face of warm summer weather and other competing blockbusters.

 

(July 1 alone is going to cream it, with The BFG, Tarzan and Purge 3 all coming in hot).

 

So...I'm thinking comparative-summer-blockbuster bomb.

 

I predict a ceiling of $600 million worldwide. Let's call it $190 million U.S., $400 million foreign.

 

At those numbers it will likely be profitable (barely) but the original hit nearly $600 million domestic alone, after adjusting for inflation.

 

$190MM US seems like a pipe dream at this point. high $40's opening weekend points toward $125MM, maybe $150MM US. int'l- who knows?

[budsbundy]

No ones seen it yet?

[1950's war comics]

The first Independence Day movie used to be a great gage on whether or not I could trust a co workers movie judgement,... if the person said it was a great movie I knew then that they knew nothing about movies, and could dismiss future recommendations from them.

The first movie was one of the worst , most stupid movies ever made and there are many web sights that will point out how horribly bad it is.

it was loved by 15,16 years olds and younger when it came out and that is fine , but for mature adults it ranks as a complete insult to intelligence and receives zero stars

[50 Cent #II (1st)]

Well, my car's check engine light was on so I took it to the dealership this morning. They tell me it'll be around 2pm when they can look at it so I took the shuttle to the theater and saw this matinee. Of course after the movie and lunch and getting back they didn't look at it until 3:30pm. The movie's pretty bad, nice to see much of the same cast (although Randy would have been a hoot to see again), but it's not worth checking out at the theaters. If you really need to see it and can wait until DVD, that's what I would recommend, but if not then don't have high expectations and maybe it'll appeal more to you.

[NewEnglandGothic]

The first Independence Day movie used to be a great gage on whether or not I could trust a co workers movie judgement,... if the person said it was a great movie I knew then that they knew nothing about movies, and could dismiss future recommendations from them.

The first movie was one of the worst , most stupid movies ever made and there are many web sights that will point out how horribly bad it is.

it was loved by 15,16 years olds and younger when it came out and that is fine , but for mature adults it ranks as a complete insult to intelligence and receives zero stars

 

I pretty much agree with all of this.

Watched it a year ago.

The sound effects editing is still top-notch and it has a lot of attitude.

But, it does evaporate from your mind as soon as you finish it.

[Bosco685]

The first Independence Day movie used to be a great gage on whether or not I could trust a co workers movie judgement,... if the person said it was a great movie I knew then that they knew nothing about movies, and could dismiss future recommendations from them.

The first movie was one of the worst , most stupid movies ever made and there are many web sights that will point out how horribly bad it is.

it was loved by 15,16 years olds and younger when it came out and that is fine , but for mature adults it ranks as a complete insult to intelligence and receives zero stars

 

'The first movie was one of the worst'?

 

I'm not sure I agree with that statement, though it is your opinion. There have been so many others that own this title. Especially if we look at just the Science Fiction-Fantasy category.

 

- Battlefield Earth (TOP OF THE HEAP!)

- Star Wars: The Phantom Menace

- Freejack (with Mick Jagger too)

- The Adventures of Pluto Nash

 

And the list goes on of the unwatchables.

 

 

[Gatsby77]

Yeah - if you think Independence Day was "one of the worst" movies out there, you need to watch more movies.

 

I don't think I've seen it again since the theater, but it was an incredible time 20 years ago.

 

I still remember:

 

- The White House exploding (from the trailer)

- Will Smith punching, in the desert, punching the alien ("Welcome to Earf!")

- Jeff Goldblum being awesome

- Bill Pullman's ridiculous but awesome "Independence Day" speech (made all the better because he actually then pilots a jet himself)

- Mary McDonnell as the first lady

 

That's a whole lot of good stuff to remember from a single viewing. As a cheesy disaster epic it revived a genre not really seen since the '70s.

 

 

All that being said, I'm skipping this sequel like I skipped Die Hard 4 and 5.

[Gatsby77]

This is gonna' bomb.

 

Not quite Warcraft-style bomb (which looks like it will become only the second movie to hit $400 million worldwide having not managed to hit $100 million domestic -- Terminator Genysis was the first)

 

But it will fade fast in the face of warm summer weather and other competing blockbusters.

 

(July 1 alone is going to cream it, with The BFG, Tarzan and Purge 3 all coming in hot).

 

So...I'm thinking comparative-summer-blockbuster bomb.

 

I predict a ceiling of $600 million worldwide. Let's call it $190 million U.S., $400 million foreign.

 

At those numbers it will likely be profitable (barely) but the original hit nearly $600 million domestic alone, after adjusting for inflation.

 

$190MM US seems like a pipe dream at this point. high $40's opening weekend points toward $125MM, maybe $150MM US. int'l- who knows?

 

Yeah -- but it could just as easily have surprised folks & done like $70 million domestic this weekend (which would _still_ have been less than Finding Dory's 2nd weekend).

 

$45 million summer opening and bad reviews (just 34% positive on RT right now) equals it's going to drop like a rock next weekend.

 

Ditto - some heads are gonna' role. I doubt any executives would have agreed to this if they knew it would open to less than $50 million