The Undead Thread: Pre-Code Horror 21 21

[Jayman]

It’s getting really WEIRD! 

[Black Bat]

On 5/19/2023 at 4:24 PM, Jayman said:

 

 

I LOVE the colors on this copy.  When I evaluate the color I look to the hands- and yours are a real nice light flesh tone.  Underrated book imo.

[vaultkeeper]

Things are getting Weird around here. 

[Jayman]

On 5/19/2023 at 9:21 PM, Black Bat said:

I LOVE the colors on this copy.  When I evaluate the color I look to the hands- and yours are a real nice light flesh tone.  Underrated book imo.

Thanks! Never zeroed in on the hands before but just the overall color and strike. The one thing that I do like to see on these BBWTs that the two bats at the top are completely there and not cut off as in a lot of copies I’ve seen.

My 113, 116 and 117 come close but I can live with that.  The 113 was the last issue I needed to complete the 111-119 run and my only graded copy…

[Paul © ® ⚽️💙™]

On 5/20/2023 at 1:50 PM, Jayman said:

Thanks! Never zeroed in on the hands before but just the overall color and strike. The one thing that I do like to see on these BBWTs that the two bats at the top are completely there and not cut off as in a lot of copies I’ve seen.

My 113, 116 and 117 come close but I can live with that.  The 113 was the last issue I needed to complete the 111-119 run and my only graded copy…

Very nice meister.  

[Robot Man]

Just noticed this cool thread has reached 500 pages!

So, in honor of that, I found a real old photo.

[Black Bat]

On 5/20/2023 at 5:50 AM, Jayman said:

Thanks! Never zeroed in on the hands before but just the overall color and strike. The one thing that I do like to see on these BBWTs that the two bats at the top are completely there and not cut off as in a lot of copies I’ve seen.

My 113, 116 and 117 come close but I can live with that.  The 113 was the last issue I needed to complete the 111-119 run and my only graded copy…

 

Lol, that's exactly my criteria too.  the bats have to be all the way in.  I gotta have some standards or else I'd buy just about anything!   As for that 113... definitely boarderline, but the pq pushes it into the buy side.  

[fifties]

On 5/20/2023 at 5:50 AM, Jayman said:

Thanks! Never zeroed in on the hands before but just the overall color and strike. The one thing that I do like to see on these BBWTs that the two bats at the top are completely there and not cut off as in a lot of copies I’ve seen.

My 113, 116 and 117 come close but I can live with that.  The 113 was the last issue I needed to complete the 111-119 run and my only graded copy…

BB 113 is a pretty good read.  I have a few of that title.

[Black Bat]

On 5/20/2023 at 5:50 AM, Jayman said:

Thanks! Never zeroed in on the hands before but just the overall color and strike. The one thing that I do like to see on these BBWTs that the two bats at the top are completely there and not cut off as in a lot of copies I’ve seen.

My 113, 116 and 117 come close but I can live with that.  The 113 was the last issue I needed to complete the 111-119 run and my only graded copy…

 

Uh...

Obviously this was purchased before I committed to my criteria.  

 

Edited May 20, 2023 by Black Bat

[Jayman]

On 5/20/2023 at 4:34 PM, Black Bat said:

Uh...

Obviously this was purchased before I committed to my criteria.  

 

Still so nice! Sometimes you have to grab them when you see them! 

[fifties]

On 5/20/2023 at 3:22 PM, Jayman said:

Still so nice! Sometimes you have to grab them when you see them! 

SOMETIMES??  How about ALWAYS, 'cause they just don't "grow on trees", LOL!  When's the last time you've seen a BB Weird FS?  

[Jayman]

On 5/20/2023 at 9:38 PM, fifties said:

SOMETIMES??  How about ALWAYS, 'cause they just don't "grow on trees", LOL!  When's the last time you've seen a BB Weird FS?  

Well there are some on the Bay but they are

 

[fifties]

On 5/20/2023 at 8:23 PM, Jayman said:

Well there are some on the Bay but they are

 

Ya got me there, Jayman.  From $5,000 down to $399, but that one's missing the centerfold.

[bronze johnny]

On 5/20/2023 at 10:13 AM, Robot Man said:

Just noticed this cool thread has reached 500 pages!

So, in honor of that, I found a real old photo.

“Sweet 16”

[Kramerica]

I have to get in on Page 500! Here are some recent grabs:

The last one is a signed piece by artist Ryan Carr and while not quite PCH it sorta fits the mold....

 

[bronze johnny]

Just realized that I already posted the book- my bad!

Edited May 22, 2023 by bronze johnny

[bronze johnny]

This one actually started it all:

[fifties]

Well actually not, AFA those two examples starting the pre code horror trend.

  In the case of CDNP, that came out in July of 1942.  Adventures Into The Unknown first came out in the fall of 1948. 

AFA  The first horror comic book AFAIK, was Eerie Comics, January, 1947.  None of these, however, developed a following.  It wasn't until EC started their New Trend books in the fall of 1950, that other publishers began their fare, in 1951.

[bronze johnny]

On 5/22/2023 at 3:01 PM, fifties said:

Well actually not, AFA those two examples starting the pre code horror trend.

  In the case of CDNP, that came out in July of 1942.  Adventures Into The Unknown first came out in the fall of 1948. 

AFA  The first horror comic book AFAIK, was Eerie Comics, January, 1947.  None of these, however, developed a following.  It wasn't until EC started their New Trend books in the fall of 1950, that other publishers began their fare, in 1951.

You’re missing out on one significant component as to why ACG’s book was the first to kick off precode horror- it was the first horror series that came out regularly. AITU #1 was not a one shot as we know. It was a successful and continuous run that had a following given ACG kept the run going, and it went on to be one of the longest running horror runs in comic book history. Gaines and company were already doing crime in 1949 and things moved at a slower pace during that time. Had AITU not succeeded, we may have never seen EC Comics take on horror the way it did (Moon Girl #5 did have EC’s first horror story but nothing followed and that may also have to do with the fact that it hit the newsstands at around the same time as AITU #1 during the Fall of 1948 - before ACG’s intent on making AITU a continuous run) but rather stick to crime, romance, westerns, and war. Thankfully, ACG succeeded and EC went much further and took horror to its greatest level, which is one of the main reasons why the 1950s comics are not Golden Age Comic Books. As for Eerie Comics, it was not the first horror comic. Gilberton’s Classic Comics title produced the first horror comics that were adaptations of classic horror stories like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Eerie Comics #1 was the first horror comic to have original material and that’s what makes it a special book.

CDNP #22 is the first comic book entirely dedicated to crime that also started the crime genre, which later saw the romance (with Young Romance #1) and horror (AITU #1) genres that went on after the superhero genre ended with Second World War and postwar era. Fascinating time for the history of the American Comic Book!
 

[adamstrange]

On 5/22/2023 at 7:42 PM, bronze johnny said:

AITU #1 was not a one shot as we know. It was a successful and continuous run that had a following given ACG kept the run going, and it went on to be one of the longest running horror runs in comic book history. Gaines and company were already doing crime in 1949 and things moved at a slower pace during that time. Had AITU not succeeded, we may have never seen EC Comics take on horror the way it did (Moon Girl #5 did have EC’s first horror story but nothing followed and that may also have to do with the fact that it hit the newsstands at around the same time as AITU #1 during the Fall of 1948 - before ACG’s intent on making AITU a continuous run) but rather stick to crime, romance, westerns, and war. Thankf