CBCS have gone bonkers 0

[Transplant]

1 hour ago, VegasJeff said:

CBCS must be desperate for business to offer this ...

Or just filling a niche demand.  I can't get the continued need to bash CBCS here.  It's as if people feel they can't be justified in liking CGC and CGC's product, unless they put down everything about CBCS.  Don't forget, market pressure from CBCS, on CGC, has resulted in many positive things. 

[Jeffro.]

24 minutes ago, Transplant said:

1 hour ago, VegasJeff said:

CBCS must be desperate for business to offer this ...

Or just filling a niche demand.  I can't get the continued need to bash CBCS here.  It's as if people feel they can't be justified in liking CGC and CGC's product, unless they put down everything about CBCS.  Don't forget, market pressure from CBCS, on CGC, has resulted in many positive things. 

Not that I'm defending the bashing you speak of but have you seen the CGC bashing that goes on over there? Worse than here by far. At least as far as I've seen

[My young Padawan]

51 minutes ago, Transplant said:

Or just filling a niche demand.  I can't get the continued need to bash CBCS here.  It's as if people feel they can't be justified in liking CGC and CGC's product, unless they put down everything about CBCS.  Don't forget, market pressure from CBCS, on CGC, has resulted in many positive things. 

I agree, Transplant.  I will take my chances with CGC, regardless of whatever issues they may be dealing with at the time.

[Zolnerowich]

On 2/17/2017 at 7:18 PM, Paddy_McShillihan said:

http://I'll do it for   $2 

 

 

I got a good laugh from that! 

 

[oakman29]

What, they don't even put em in a top loader?

[HighStakesComics]

15 minutes ago, oakman29 said:

What, they don't even put em in a top loader?

We need to start charging $.75 a grade for PGMs.

 

Edited February 21, 2017 by HighStakesComics

[oakman29]

9 minutes ago, HighStakesComics said:

We need to start charging $.75 a grade for PGMs.

 

That sounds like an awesome idea. 

[HemiGTX]

Grading a book without a restoration check is worthless.  And bad for our hobby.

[Transplant]

7 minutes ago, HemiGTX said:

Grading a book without a restoration check is worthless.  And bad for our hobby.

How so if no one has the expectation that there is a resto check?

[kav]

What if the grading contests are just to see if maybe CGC got it wrong??

Edited February 21, 2017 by kav

[punksdropdirtysrh]

This service will most likely not appeal to high dollar keys so stop crying about the lack of restoration check. 

[JWKyle]

6 hours ago, Transplant said:

Or just filling a niche demand.  I can't get the continued need to bash CBCS here.  It's as if people feel they can't be justified in liking CGC and CGC's product, unless they put down everything about CBCS.  Don't forget, market pressure from CBCS, on CGC, has resulted in many positive things. 

 

5 hours ago, Jerkfro said:

Not that I'm defending the bashing you speak of but have you seen the CGC bashing that goes on over there? Worse than here by far. At least as far as I've seen

There is a ton of bashing both way's. I for one think both companies have something to offer me as a collector. Although this new rollout from CBCS is something I don't plan on using some people may feel different. Keep this in mind the service is $10 for a post 1975 book and $15 for a pre 1975 book . No restoration check and no slab just a mylar. Oh and there is a $250 FMV cap on the service. If I was sending in a book for grading I would just as soon pay the extra and get the restoration check and the slab.

[porcupine48]

1 hour ago, oakman29 said:

What, they don't even put em in a top loader?

Shaken Comic Syndrome!

[exitmusicblue]

On 2/17/2017 at 3:24 PM, Grantley Goddard said:

 

Apparently he now has branches in Holland & Germany too 

[lou_fine]

On 2/17/2017 at 10:27 AM, Lt. Eckhardt said:

Voldermot is just undermining the whole grading process by doing this.  CGC is the one true grading company in my mind.  I hope they don't follow suit on this.

My bet is that if CGC had initially come up with this idea, some of the naysayers would be saying what a fantastic idea this was and a nice complement to their current grading services. 

[shadroch]

Will they have Newton rings? All the kool books have Newton rings.

[lou_fine]

3 hours ago, HemiGTX said:

Grading a book without a restoration check is worthless.  And bad for our hobby.

You do realize that an overwhelming majority of the books graded by CGC are MA books and out of those books, a further overwhelming majority of them are brand spanking new variant copies fresh off the shelves of the LCS's.  A restoration check on these types books is indeed absolutely worthless and nothing more than a waste of your money. 

For any truly vintage collectible book, I highly doubt this service is geared towards these types of books, as collectors with any brains at all would be sending these books in for grading through the traditional grading service. 

[lou_fine]

11 hours ago, 1Cool said:

11 hours ago, FineCollector said:

No resto check offered with the service?  Wasn't the whole purpose of 3rd party grading to identify restoration on those big dollar books so that you could buy with confidence?  Wow... talk about your bad ideas.  The first book out of that service that gets a restored label is going to sink the company.

Doubtful since they specify restoration check is not included.  I'd see a bidder liability issue if someone buys a 9.4 Hulk 181 and the switched books is only a 8.5 with hidden defects.  I'm sure there is some disclaimers thrown in to cover their butts.

Not sure how easy it would be to switch out the books since the mylar holder is apparently sealed to prevent this type of fraudulent activity from happening, as based upon the following statment from the article:

"The grade is displayed on a sticker on the front of the Mylar bag, which is sealed with a tamper evident sticker for security."

 

[comicquant]

I think this is voldy's desperate attempt for additional revenue channels.  All they are doing is charging double for a pre-screen, without resto checks, putting them in a cheap Mylar and slapping a sticker on it.

[jimjum12]

This was being talked about quite a bit at the Richmond show this past weekend. What I heard was that this service was geared towards facilitating appraisals for Estate and Insurance purposes. GOD BLESS...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)