CBCS have gone bonkers 0

[Paul © ® ⚽️💙™]

3 hours ago, aardvark88 said:

4. Even Cgc recommends that their long term protection means getting slabs re-slabbed every 7 years. A Voldemoort top of mylar sealed comic should be able to protect comic corners for 7 years too.

 

1 hour ago, Lt. Eckhardt said:

Voldermot is just undermining the whole grading process by doing this.  CGC is the one true grading company in my mind.  I hope they don't follow suit on this.

Apparently he now has branches in Holland & Germany too 

[aardvark88]

Looking forward to the first true Canadian grading co.: GGGs = greggy's genuine grading system. Patent pending, mylars cost extra.

[Mio]

I would love CGC to offer this service. I do not like their new slabs, do not want to slab some books, but nevertheless would like accurate grading.

[drotto]

5 minutes ago, Mio said:

I would love CGC to offer this service. I do not like their new slabs, do not want to slab some books, but nevertheless would like accurate grading.

But the problem remains, the grade can only be guaranteed the moment it is done.  Now I can see value in on site grading opinions at a show. Being able to pay a third party to come over to a booth and give a grade, especially when dealing with high value books, would actually be good.

[Timmay]

36 minutes ago, aardvark88 said:

Looking forward to the first true Canadian grading co.: GGGs = greggy's genuine grading system. Patent pending, mylars cost extra.

Every book gets a drink spilled on it and some crumbs in the bag.

 

[Mio]

8 minutes ago, drotto said:

But the problem remains, the grade can only be guaranteed the moment it is done.  Now I can see value in on site grading opinions at a show. Being able to pay a third party to come over to a booth and give a grade, especially when dealing with high value books, would actually be good.

Some people take books out of slabs when they get them, and just want an independent view as to the grade. I have books like this. The service can be useful in other cases, e.g. a buyer and seller cannot agree on a grade and submit just to determine that (to help fix a price) which I have also done.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Mio

[rjrjr]

3 hours ago, drotto said:

But it means nothing.  The people who use this will know what the grade was at the moment it was done.  There is no guarantee that will be the grade after further handling, shipping, etc. Other than a way of putting a few more dollars into their pockets, I am not sure how it benefits the collector.  I would not pay any sort of premium if I purchased a graded but not encapsulated book.  It is just a raw book.

Encapsulated books can have this same issue.  I live in Arizona.  If I stored the CGC books in the garage for a year or two, I guarantee you, they will not be in the same grade that is written on the CGC slab.

[kav]

MCS for instance puts a grade sticker on their raws-this is not an unreasonable idea.

[Readcomix]

41 minutes ago, rjrjr said:

Encapsulated books can have this same issue.  I live in Arizona.  If I stored the CGC books in the garage for a year or two, I guarantee you, they will not be in the same grade that is written on the CGC slab.

Bam! This. A friend of mine has a copper x-men, 200-something, that is labeled 9.0 but is faded and shriveled looking in the sealed case.  CGC did not blow the call; an LCS hung it with window exposure for faaaar too long. He bought it for laughs, curiousity, a reminder that slabs still need care. The big difference that some fear, I suspect, is not knowing that the book was left in the Mylar. Odds are good of course that if it is, its in the same condition as when it's inserted. My mylar'ed books are. But yes handling mistakes can occur. I'm all for the extra protection of slabs for super-valuable stuff but I would be kind of sad to have an ENTIRE collection of books I could not read. 

 

As as to the new service, I'm not much interested but not upset. It's a big world, there's room.

[AJD]

It's a product, and the market will decide its fate. I probably won't be using it, but I won't be worrying about it either.

[Paddy_McShillihan]

http://I'll do it for   $2 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2017 by Paddy_McShillihan

[shadroch]

There was a guy who used to advertise in Overstreet that he would grade your comics, put them in a mylar and ship them back to you for $1 a book.

[thehumantorch]

10 hours ago, *matterus023* said:

 

No, thanks for sharing.  This is an interesting announcement and has implications for the grading industry.  At first blush it seems like a bad idea to me but I can see benefits to the idea.

[fastballspecial]

3 hours ago, Mio said:

Some people take books out of slabs when they get them, and just want an independent view as to the grade. I have books like this. The service can be useful in other cases, e.g. a buyer and seller cannot agree on a grade and submit just to determine that (to help fix a price) which I have also done.

Less then 1% of transactions would fall into this. Unless their overhead is nothing I don't see this service lasting.

 

[thehumantorch]

3 hours ago, Timmay said:

Every book gets a drink spilled on it and some crumbs in the bag.

 

And Greggy presses the book by napping on it....

[lou_fine]

6 hours ago, drotto said:

But it means nothing.  The people who use this will know what the grade was at the moment it was done.  There is no guarantee that will be the grade after further handling, shipping, etc. Other than a way of putting a few more dollars into their pockets, I am not sure how it benefits the collector.  I would not pay any sort of premium if I purchased a graded but not encapsulated book.  It is just a raw book.

Same lack of grade guarantee issue with an encapsulated book, although to a lesser extent. 

After all, have you not heard of SCS yet? 

[VegasJeff]

CBCS must be desperate for business to offer this ...

[FineCollector]

No resto check offered with the service?  Wasn't the whole purpose of 3rd party grading to identify restoration on those big dollar books so that you could buy with confidence?  Wow... talk about your bad ideas.  The first book out of that service that gets a restored label is going to sink the company.

[1Cool]

1 minute ago, FineCollector said:

No resto check offered with the service?  Wasn't the whole purpose of 3rd party grading to identify restoration on those big dollar books so that you could buy with confidence?  Wow... talk about your bad ideas.  The first book out of that service that gets a restored label is going to sink the company.

Doubtful since they specify restoration check is not included.  I'd see a bidder liability issue if someone buys a 9.4 Hulk 181 and the switched books is only a 8.5 with hidden defects.  I'm sure there is some disclaimers thrown in to cover their butts.

[My young Padawan]

On 2/17/2017 at 2:41 PM, Bronty said:

they have this sort of thing in card collecting.  I presume that's what they are going for. 

I considered the same thing.  Beckett offers Raw/Graded Card Review at sports card shows.