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[DR.X]

I think it was ok at first because he was new and had no idea what he was doing but then to continue to throw out books without scans or anything is kind of offensive. It is too bad that some people can't resist the "deal" so as long as there are buyers, then he will continue to carry on.

 

 

Like JC said all those years ago "The Devil could come on here selling and there would be a line-up of buyers supporting him"

 

If those would have been $5.00 books how fast would the flame-throwing have started?

 

DRX

Edited December 24, 2009 by DRX

[skypinkblu]

What is starting to concern me, is it seems he's selling books for a bunch of different people, that he doesn't have "in hand" ...at least that is what I got from his explanation about the different backgrounds.

 

I didn't go back and look, but has anyone posted the selling rules? Maybe he doesn't know what they are?

[PEP]

Anyone ever post just a Trade Only thread? I'm thinking of trying one but I have never seen one posted.

[etanick]

I think it was ok at first because he was new and had no idea what he was doing but then to continue to throw out books without scans or anything is kind of offensive. It is too bad that some people can't resist the "deal" so as long as there are buyers, then he will continue to carry on.

 

 

Like JC said all those years ago "The Devil could come on here selling and there would be a line-up of buyers supporting him"

 

If those would have been $5.00 books how fast would the flame-throwing have started?

 

DRX

 

absolutely true...double standards on this forum? surely you kid

[JerryZ]

Everyone is going nuts over this guys books.As a previous poster said if these were 5 dollar books this guy would be getting flamed BIG TIME.

 

I just hope for the boards sake that this isnt some kind of a scam or something.Or people dont get ripped off somehow BUT ill stay clear of anyones sales like the Paypal today only " pricing etc.?? Why the big hurry to collect all this cash before you have the books in your possesion? You need the cash that bad or..........

In my first sales thread I was selling a 100 dollar book and I was asked for virtually everything but my first born child before I .

could make this sale.BUT this guy comes on here selling books in the 5 k range and if you ask questions or address concerns in the thread you get lambasted..

 

There are big double standards and you are only questioned or scrutinized depending on how good your wares and prices are..If you are a NEW user and have high end stuff at cheap prices look out!! feeding frenzy begins.If you have OK stuff at market price Go somewhere else as youll be ripped up and down .

He keeps listing books with no prices,pulling books .off to CGC ..A lot of poor form by this noob is being ignored due to the feeding frenzy going on..

[Loki]

Not to cause any problems but why is this sales thread even allowed? The books are not in hand, they are being sold by another party (?), some have prices, others don't and most of the sales are done in private. Just wondering...

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3668120&fpart=1

 

 

As far as I can tell, he hasn't actually broken any of the Forum rules other than neglecting to price a few books until it's pointed out to him. But that happens occasionally with long-time sellers too...

 

There are a lot of sellers around here who pre-sell books that aren't in hand but are on their way back from the CGC. As long as that fact is disclosed, it's never been a problem in the past.

 

The sales via a third party is actually the smartest move he made. Using an established dealer as an escrow agent to handle the money and books is the only way I'd even consider buying a valuable book from a complete unknown. As far as I can tell, we have no rules against that.

 

And PM sales are incredibly common around here. If I had $1 for every time I've seen "Book XYZ sold by PM" posted, I'd be a rich man.

 

That being said, the thread is definitely a complete mess. I think the seller would have benefited from taking a day or two to study some other sales threads to see how things are usually done around here.

 

My

[JerryZ]

Not to cause any problems but why is this sales thread even allowed? The books are not in hand, they are being sold by another party (?), some have prices, others don't and most of the sales are done in private. Just wondering...

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3668120&fpart=1

 

 

As far as I can tell, he hasn't actually broken any of the Forum rules other than neglecting to price a few books until it's pointed out to him. But that happens occasionally with long-time sellers too...

 

There are a lot of sellers around here who pre-sell books that aren't in hand but are on their way back from the CGC. As long as that fact is disclosed, it's never been a problem in the past.

 

The sales via a third party is actually the smartest move he made. Using an established dealer as an escrow agent to handle the money and books is the only way I'd even consider buying a valuable book from a complete unknown. As far as I can tell, we have no rules against that.

 

And PM sales are incredibly common around here. If I had $1 for every time I've seen "Book XYZ sold by PM" posted, I'd be a rich man.

 

That being said, the thread is definitely a complete mess. I think the seller would have benefited from taking a day or two to study some other sales threads to see how things are usually done around here.

 

My

 

I concur with MOST of what you say BUT I have never understood selling books that are " on their way back from CGC" You mean that the "flipper" needs money that bad that they can wait till they have the book or books in their possesion?

 

'paypal today only'? I just dont get it..Guess Im not too bright but if these books were mine I would have got them all in hand then had a huge sales thread with scans and pricing on each book instead of this cluster bleep his thread has become."more on the way" ASM blah blah blah..talk about your un orginized thread.AND if this noob was using a board member as a reference or a third party dont they know how to do things the right way?As the above poster said he would have benefitted from seeing what goes on here and how we do things before jumping in with this feked up sales thread that is impossible to follow... and who knows whats sold,on hold etc. Granted..he may not be tecnically breaking any rules BUT JEEZ What a mess!

Edited December 24, 2009 by JerryZ

[genrlzod]

Anyone ever post just a Trade Only thread? I'm thinking of trying one but I have never seen one posted.

 

I have seen them, not many but they do happen. Good luck.

[Dano]

Everyone is going nuts over this guys books.As a previous poster said if these were 5 dollar books this guy would be getting flamed BIG TIME.

 

I just hope for the boards sake that this isnt some kind of a scam or something.Or people dont get ripped off somehow BUT ill stay clear of anyones sales like the Paypal today only " pricing etc.?? Why the big hurry to collect all this cash before you have the books in your possesion? You need the cash that bad or..........

In my first sales thread I was selling a 100 dollar book and I was asked for virtually everything but my first born child before I .

could make this sale.BUT this guy comes on here selling books in the 5 k range and if you ask questions or address concerns in the thread you get lambasted..

 

There are big double standards and you are only questioned or scrutinized depending on how good your wares and prices are..If you are a NEW user and have high end stuff at cheap prices look out!! feeding frenzy begins.If you have OK stuff at market price Go somewhere else as youll be ripped up and down .

He keeps listing books with no prices,pulling books .off to CGC ..A lot of poor form by this noob is being ignored due to the feeding frenzy going on..

 

I concur.

 

Dan

[Forbush-Man]

Everyone is going nuts over this guys books.As a previous poster said if these were 5 dollar books this guy would be getting flamed BIG TIME.

 

I just hope for the boards sake that this isnt some kind of a scam or something.Or people dont get ripped off somehow BUT ill stay clear of anyones sales like the Paypal today only " pricing etc.?? Why the big hurry to collect all this cash before you have the books in your possesion? You need the cash that bad or..........

In my first sales thread I was selling a 100 dollar book and I was asked for virtually everything but my first born child before I .

could make this sale.BUT this guy comes on here selling books in the 5 k range and if you ask questions or address concerns in the thread you get lambasted..

 

There are big double standards and you are only questioned or scrutinized depending on how good your wares and prices are..If you are a NEW user and have high end stuff at cheap prices look out!! feeding frenzy begins.If you have OK stuff at market price Go somewhere else as youll be ripped up and down .

He keeps listing books with no prices,pulling books .off to CGC ..A lot of poor form by this noob is being ignored due to the feeding frenzy going on..

 

I concur.

 

Dan

 

I'll second that. Look up this old thread to see what cheap bags & boards will do if you try to point out something isn't all it's cracked up to be: "Who won the Hulk #181?" Redhook & I got shut down on that one......deaf ears.

[DarkKnightReturns]

That sales thread is ridiculous. Disorganized and sloppy. I don't think he's actually broken any forum rules though.

 

The baiting with more books to come is funny though. You can almost see the lineup of people kissing his . Smart move.

[Mr.Diggler]

[JerryZ]

That sales thread is ridiculous. Disorganized and sloppy. I don't think he's actually broken any forum rules though.

 

The baiting with more books to come is funny though. You can almost see the lineup of people kissing his . Smart move.

 

My lips will stay far away from that thread

[Boozad]

Same as the MCA thread in General. Big enough books, heads are turned. And look how that ended up. Or didn't.

[THE_BEYONDER]

 

[comicdonna]

Everyone is going nuts over this guys books.As a previous poster said if these were 5 dollar books this guy would be getting flamed BIG TIME.

 

I just hope for the boards sake that this isnt some kind of a scam or something.Or people dont get ripped off somehow BUT ill stay clear of anyones sales like the Paypal today only " pricing etc.?? Why the big hurry to collect all this cash before you have the books in your possesion? You need the cash that bad or..........

In my first sales thread I was selling a 100 dollar book and I was asked for virtually everything but my first born child before I .

could make this sale.BUT this guy comes on here selling books in the 5 k range and if you ask questions or address concerns in the thread you get lambasted..

 

There are big double standards and you are only questioned or scrutinized depending on how good your wares and prices are..If you are a NEW user and have high end stuff at cheap prices look out!! feeding frenzy begins.If you have OK stuff at market price Go somewhere else as youll be ripped up and down .

He keeps listing books with no prices,pulling books .off to CGC ..A lot of poor form by this noob is being ignored due to the feeding frenzy going on..

Didn't a board member post a good recommendation in reguards to the seller?

[dopy02]

Not to cause any problems but why is this sales thread even allowed? The books are not in hand, they are being sold by another party (?), some have prices, others don't and most of the sales are done in private. Just wondering...

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3668120&fpart=1

 

 

yes

1.have good books

2.create a cluster

3.become known as a saint and the MAN

[VintageComics]

Same as the MCA thread in General. Big enough books, heads are turned. And look how that ended up. Or didn't.

 

I disagree. I don't think it has anything to do with the books.

 

There is honest confusion and then there is willful ignorance.

 

I believe this guy was honestly confused and not willfully ignorant (or disobedient).

 

I haven't followed this new thread that closely but the guy is learning the rules and adapting as he goes along. He's also being apologetic, even though there was initially a bit of an uproar on both sides.

 

He's not selling through another dealer, he is allowing a dealer to act as an escrow.

 

He's answering PMs, and adapting as he learns.

 

Part of the problem that the thread has experienced seems to be an overreaction from some board members from the beginning of the thread causing a mess, as is usually the case when people just fire first and think later.

 

It's unrealistic to expect everyone to fit in immediately from the get-go. It takes a while for people to get their wings and fit in.

 

I was harassed as a PGX shill when I first started posting here.

 

[VintageComics]

Everyone is going nuts over this guys books.As a previous poster said if these were 5 dollar books this guy would be getting flamed BIG TIME.

 

I just hope for the boards sake that this isnt some kind of a scam or something.Or people dont get ripped off somehow BUT ill stay clear of anyones sales like the Paypal today only " pricing etc.?? Why the big hurry to collect all this cash before you have the books in your possesion? You need the cash that bad or..........

In my first sales thread I was selling a 100 dollar book and I was asked for virtually everything but my first born child before I .

could make this sale.BUT this guy comes on here selling books in the 5 k range and if you ask questions or address concerns in the thread you get lambasted..

 

There are big double standards and you are only questioned or scrutinized depending on how good your wares and prices are..If you are a NEW user and have high end stuff at cheap prices look out!! feeding frenzy begins.If you have OK stuff at market price Go somewhere else as youll be ripped up and down .

He keeps listing books with no prices,pulling books .off to CGC ..A lot of poor form by this noob is being ignored due to the feeding frenzy going on..

Didn't a board member post a good recommendation in reguards to the seller?

 

A board member, a grader from CGC and a dealer.

 

 

[comicdonna]

Everyone is going nuts over this guys books.As a previous poster said if these were 5 dollar books this guy would be getting flamed BIG TIME.

 

I just hope for the boards sake that this isnt some kind of a scam or something.Or people dont get ripped off somehow BUT ill stay clear of anyones sales like the Paypal today only " pricing etc.?? Why the big hurry to collect all this cash before you have the books in your possesion? You need the cash that bad or..........

In my first sales thread I was selling a 100 dollar book and I was asked for virtually everything but my first born child before I .

could make this sale.BUT this guy comes on here selling books in the 5 k range and if you ask questions or address concerns in the thread you get lambasted..

 

There are big double standards and you are only questioned or scrutinized depending on how good your wares and prices are..If you are a NEW user and have high end stuff at cheap prices look out!! feeding frenzy begins.If you have OK stuff at market price Go somewhere else as youll be ripped up and down .

He keeps listing books with no prices,pulling books .off to CGC ..A lot of poor form by this noob is being ignored due to the feeding frenzy going on..

Didn't a board member post a good recommendation in reguards to the seller?

 

A board member, a grader from CGC and a dealer.

 

You're right! It's hard to keep track with a 45 page FS thread.