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[THE_BEYONDER]

Do you get a headband when you start being a marketplace commando

 

Camo bandana

[Iceman399]

Do you get a headband when you start being a marketplace commando

 

Camo bandana

 

then how would they see us...

[Kramerica]

But the person not following the sales guidelines is lazy, so why stoop to their level?

 

Do you think by posting that generic template, without specifics, the seller is suddenly going to click on the link and read through all the guidelines to determine WHICH rules they're not following?

yes

 

Are you agreeing or disagreeing that someone should cite the specific rules?

Yes.

± 1

 

Just to clarify, you never cannot not specify the specific rules.

 

WORD

 

Awax rules but I think his avatar should wear a Santa Hat all year long. Seeing it gone makes me sort of depressed.

Edited January 8, 2014 by Kramerica

[HarveySwick]

But the person not following the sales guidelines is lazy, so why stoop to their level?

 

Do you think by posting that generic template, without specifics, the seller is suddenly going to click on the link and read through all the guidelines to determine WHICH rules they're not following?

yes

 

Are you agreeing or disagreeing that someone should cite the specific rules?

Yes.

± 1

 

Just to clarify, you never cannot not specify the specific rules.

 

WORD

 

Awax rules but I think his avatar should wear a Santa Hat all year long. Seeing it gone makes me sort of depressed.

It was an elf hat!

[HarveySwick]

Who was it?

you!

 

I recently quoted his WTB thread oddly enough.

 

He's asked for pic, which I've provided

 

 

Here we go.

[jsilverjanet]

hold on Harvey aka Justin Bieber (cause youre so dreamy)

Edited January 8, 2014 by jsilverjanet

[HarveySwick]

hold on Harvey aka Justin Bieber (cause your so dreamy)

Janet.

 

[Awax]

But the person not following the sales guidelines is lazy, so why stoop to their level?

 

Do you think by posting that generic template, without specifics, the seller is suddenly going to click on the link and read through all the guidelines to determine WHICH rules they're not following?

yes

 

Are you agreeing or disagreeing that someone should cite the specific rules?

Yes.

± 1

 

Just to clarify, you never cannot not specify the specific rules.

 

WORD

 

Awax rules but I think his avatar should wear a Santa Hat all year long. Seeing it gone makes me sort of depressed.

 

[Gsims718]

I present tonight's latest

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=7326817&gonew=1#UNREAD

Columbia Comics loves to thread krap the sales threads of newer members.

 

And considering that the only rule the noob left out was #9, "acceptable forms of payment", the threadkrapping was way out of line.

 

Compared to the other straight-out liars and scammer noobs that have been appearing here lately, at least this one managed to follow almost all of the rules.

 

I was kind of surprised by this considering how many times I have sent CC a PM about a book from his want to buy threads and he has ignored me.

 

 

[slym2none]

I am enjoying the strikes and hope they increase ten fold. Fear and paranoia will be the new norm. I want this place to read like a Kafka novel.

 

If that Shakespearean Tragedy series of comments went over people's heads this one's in orbit.

 

 

 

 

 

-slym

[joecgcmaniac]

I present tonight's latest

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=7326817&gonew=1#UNREAD

Columbia Comics loves to thread krap the sales threads of newer members.

 

And considering that the only rule the noob left out was #9, "acceptable forms of payment", the threadkrapping was way out of line.

 

Compared to the other straight-out liars and scammer noobs that have been appearing here lately, at least this one managed to follow almost all of the rules.

 

I was kind of surprised by this considering how many times I have sent CC a PM about a book from his want to buy threads and he has ignored me.

 

 

Didn't you know? When somebody posts a WTB thread, they want the absolute highest quality books, then will offer you prices that would make g-man say, "Dang, that's a low-ball offer!"

 

And of course, if you dare offer them the book at even a large portion off of guide or G.P.A., they're still so insulted that they can't be bothered to have the common manners to at least respond in the negative. Or send any response at all.

[slym2none]

quick question

 

so I purchased a cheap slab and the seller shipped poorly (envelope, with bubble wrap), of course it came in cracked. I assume seller is at fault here for poor shipping correct?

Definitely. Question though what was he charging on shipping, cheap shipping usually means cheap packaging. Except of course for a few sellers.

 

Irrelevant. Poor packing as described above is fully sellers fault. Doesn't matter what the charge is, I could list a book with free shipping, that doesn't mean I am going to put a stamp on the slab and hope it makes it there, or put it in a box and drop it in the ocean. You would think someone here wouldn't ship a slab in a bubble mailer...on other sites can't be too sure though.

Wait.... you guys don't ship like this?

 

 

We have before - as a test.

 

 

 

 

-slym

[joecgcmaniac]

It's closed/deleted now, but when I looked at it this morning, I think it was missing several things such as shipping method as well as the payment method. I don't know if he edited it but I think all it had listed was a scan and the price.

 

The payment method was the only thing missing.

 

As far as "shipping method" being included, 98% of the threads here fail to give that info. They'll list prices, but the majority of them don't specify media mail, parcel post, priority, UPS, or FedEx. Heck, HusTruck charged $10 for shipping, then told people to PM him if they wanted their slabs shipped in a box, in which case he increased the shipping costs.

 

A buyer may think that with the prices charged for shipping that they're getting priority mail, but I think we've all seen sellers charge priority prices then ship media mail. The best sellers though, are the ones who get all butt-hurtz when you ask for them to ship in a box, even when you're nice enough to offer to pay extra just so the slimeball can buy the box to ship the books in. Then of course, they don't bother to insulate the books in any way inside of the box.

 

The noobs and some of the shadier boardies around here are making it where it's not only safer to buy from e-bay, but to also trust Mile High to get accurately graded books. I liked the sales thread a few weeks back, where the seller said all the books were NM/NM+, all the while the bags that the books were in had the Mile High "NM" stickers visible on the majority of the books.

 

And some people have wondered why more and more of the "long-time" best of the best boardies have all but abandoned buying or selling around here. The close-knit sense of community became diluted, so whereas we rarely see sales threads from BronzeBruce, Flaming Telepath, or hell, even greggy, we now get sales threads from Symbiotic, HusTruck, and whoever else the scamster "flavor" of the day is.

 

And in the rare cases where we do have honest dealers offering good books at great deals here, we have the "lunatic fringe" lurking about, ready and willing to whine and cry to the mods just because heaven forbid, somebody posted 8%, instead of the 5% they initially stated, in a sales thread in the G/S/B sales area. Whining because you're thread got moved to the mixed section, when the other seller who simply PM'd the mod and explained his case, and got his sales thread moved back into the G/S/B forum, just showed that too many people here get their "Victoria's Secrets" in a knot way too often.

 

If certain board members would watch out and expose the scammers and shysters around here, instead of continuing to "wage war" with boardies they obviously can't stand, the sales areas would be a lot better off. Instead, we're left with instances where once somebody says something, we pretty much instantly know not only who will post to disagree with them, but that their "posse" will also be sure to follow. It's pretty bad that when certain people post something, you can PM other people and tell them not only who will show up to disagree with them, but also who the sheep will be that will be following the shepherd.

 

 

[BlowUpTheMoon]

[djpinkpanther67]

It's closed/deleted now, but when I looked at it this morning, I think it was missing several things such as shipping method as well as the payment method. I don't know if he edited it but I think all it had listed was a scan and the price.

 

The payment method was the only thing missing.

 

As far as "shipping method" being included, 98% of the threads here fail to give that info. They'll list prices, but the majority of them don't specify media mail, parcel post, priority, UPS, or FedEx. Heck, HusTruck charged $10 for shipping, then told people to PM him if they wanted their slabs shipped in a box, in which case he increased the shipping costs.

 

A buyer may think that with the prices charged for shipping that they're getting priority mail, but I think we've all seen sellers charge priority prices then ship media mail. The best sellers though, are the ones who get all butt-hurtz when you ask for them to ship in a box, even when you're nice enough to offer to pay extra just so the slimeball can buy the box to ship the books in. Then of course, they don't bother to insulate the books in any way inside of the box.

 

The noobs and some of the shadier boardies around here are making it where it's not only safer to buy from e-bay, but to also trust Mile High to get accurately graded books. I liked the sales thread a few weeks back, where the seller said all the books were NM/NM+, all the while the bags that the books were in had the Mile High "NM" stickers visible on the majority of the books.

 

And some people have wondered why more and more of the "long-time" best of the best boardies have all but abandoned buying or selling around here. The close-knit sense of community became diluted, so whereas we rarely see sales threads from BronzeBruce, Flaming Telepath, or hell, even greggy, we now get sales threads from Symbiotic, HusTruck, and whoever else the scamster "flavor" of the day is.

 

And in the rare cases where we do have honest dealers offering good books at great deals here, we have the "lunatic fringe" lurking about, ready and willing to whine and cry to the mods just because heaven forbid, somebody posted 8%, instead of the 5% they initially stated, in a sales thread in the G/S/B sales area. Whining because you're thread got moved to the mixed section, when the other seller who simply PM'd the mod and explained his case, and got his sales thread moved back into the G/S/B forum, just showed that too many people here get their "Victoria's Secrets" in a knot way too often.

 

If certain board members would watch out and expose the scammers and shysters around here, instead of continuing to "wage war" with boardies they obviously can't stand, the sales areas would be a lot better off. Instead, we're left with instances where once somebody says something, we pretty much instantly know not only who will post to disagree with them, but that their "posse" will also be sure to follow. It's pretty bad that when certain people post something, you can PM other people and tell them not only who will show up to disagree with them, but also who the sheep will be that will be following the shepherd.

 

 

Absolutely correct

Just today I sent a Boardee running a FS thread a PM inquiring if they had certain books, and complimenting on his FS thread. Rather than reply to the PM, they removed themselves from the topic. When I PM'd the person back and stated a simple response would have been courteous, he promptly responded stating (direct quote) "Wasn't worth responding to, which this message isn't either. I get hit with a lot of WTB fishing pms here and it's spam to me.."

 

[Awax]

Out him/her

[Bio-Rupp]

It's closed/deleted now, but when I looked at it this morning, I think it was missing several things such as shipping method as well as the payment method. I don't know if he edited it but I think all it had listed was a scan and the price.

 

The payment method was the only thing missing.

 

As far as "shipping method" being included, 98% of the threads here fail to give that info. They'll list prices, but the majority of them don't specify media mail, parcel post, priority, UPS, or FedEx. Heck, HusTruck charged $10 for shipping, then told people to PM him if they wanted their slabs shipped in a box, in which case he increased the shipping costs.

 

A buyer may think that with the prices charged for shipping that they're getting priority mail, but I think we've all seen sellers charge priority prices then ship media mail. The best sellers though, are the ones who get all butt-hurtz when you ask for them to ship in a box, even when you're nice enough to offer to pay extra just so the slimeball can buy the box to ship the books in. Then of course, they don't bother to insulate the books in any way inside of the box.

 

The noobs and some of the shadier boardies around here are making it where it's not only safer to buy from e-bay, but to also trust Mile High to get accurately graded books. I liked the sales thread a few weeks back, where the seller said all the books were NM/NM+, all the while the bags that the books were in had the Mile High "NM" stickers visible on the majority of the books.

 

And some people have wondered why more and more of the "long-time" best of the best boardies have all but abandoned buying or selling around here. The close-knit sense of community became diluted, so whereas we rarely see sales threads from BronzeBruce, Flaming Telepath, or hell, even greggy, we now get sales threads from Symbiotic, HusTruck, and whoever else the scamster "flavor" of the day is.

 

And in the rare cases where we do have honest dealers offering good books at great deals here, we have the "lunatic fringe" lurking about, ready and willing to whine and cry to the mods just because heaven forbid, somebody posted 8%, instead of the 5% they initially stated, in a sales thread in the G/S/B sales area. Whining because you're thread got moved to the mixed section, when the other seller who simply PM'd the mod and explained his case, and got his sales thread moved back into the G/S/B forum, just showed that too many people here get their "Victoria's Secrets" in a knot way too often.

 

If certain board members would watch out and expose the scammers and shysters around here, instead of continuing to "wage war" with boardies they obviously can't stand, the sales areas would be a lot better off. Instead, we're left with instances where once somebody says something, we pretty much instantly know not only who will post to disagree with them, but that their "posse" will also be sure to follow. It's pretty bad that when certain people post something, you can PM other people and tell them not only who will show up to disagree with them, but also who the sheep will be that will be following the shepherd.

 

 

 

Well Joe... I don't know if I'd classify those concerned with this in the category of "lunatic fringe".

 

I personally wouldn't want ANY boardie to have influence over ANY mod's ear.

 

First he may just want his thread moved back because he's only breaking a sales rule... next he may want YOUR board privileges revoked. Do you really advocate that a boardie should have that kind of power?

 

Could you imagine giving that kind of power to some of the boardies around here? Would you give that kind of power to me? How about Park? Or maybe Boscoe, Speedy or Fingh? Maybe Tiny?

 

That thread that got moved back to G/S/B should have been no different than the endless that get moved to mixed daily.

 

The fact that the rules have been viciously enforced concerning these small sales threads for such minimal infractions astounds me when, the "lunatic fringe" thread in question, just closed up shop after a healthy ONE MONTH run.

 

On a fair playing field, rules apply to ALL not just the people who can call and get them changed.

 

You must have missed the point of the problem concerning that sales thread. I personally could give a rat's rectal area about how many moderns in a G/S/B thread one person has... it's when that one boardie can influence STATED board policy/rules and have it changed in their favor. That's something I have a problem with.

 

The ONLY thing this "lunatic fringe" member truly expects from moderation around here is a fair playing field. You should expect that too.

[HarveySwick]

Out him/her

 

@joecgcmaniac -

 

It's sad to think some great sellers are not selling anymore. Has there ever been a "Dark Age" before like this and it passed?

[jsilverjanet]

[jsilverjanet]

Out him/her

 

@joecgcmaniac -

 

It's sad to think some great sellers are not selling anymore. Has there ever been a "Dark Age" before like this and it passed?

Dark age? A bit dramatic, no? Maybe the will be "one" who can save us a all? If not there is another

 

Plenty of good sellers here and I'd like to believe glass is half full than empty. While yes there is a lot of poor sellers, I don't think it's the majority and if we count the current sales threads now, we would probably see the majority are good and not bad.