When do books go from being Bronze age to being modern?

[Filter81]

I'm trying to figure out whether certain comics are bronze age books or modern books. Obviously anything 35 cents and below is considered bronze age, but what about 40 cent cover priced books that came out in 1979 or earlier? Also what about 40 cent cover price books that came out in the first few months of 1980? Is there an exact cut-off where it jumps from bronze age to modern? Or does everyone have different opinions?

[divad]

I'm trying to figure out whether certain comics are bronze age books or modern books. Obviously anything 35 cents and below is considered bronze age, but what about 40 cent cover priced books that came out in 1979 or earlier? Also what about 40 cent cover price books that came out in the first few months of 1980? Is there an exact cut-off where it jumps from bronze age to modern? Or does everyone have different opinions?

 

1. - see reply to #3 and #4

 

2. - see reply to #3 and #4

 

3. No.

 

4. Yes.

 

IMHO, it's never about where an age ends, but where a new age begins, that defines the end of the preceding age.

[precodekeith]

IMHO, it's never about where an age ends, but where a new age begins, that defines the end of the preceding age.

 

I don't think you'll get a uniform answer on the end of the BA, everyone's going to vary somewhat on this one.

 

The one exception to this rule, IMO, is the coming of the comics code, which signalled the end of the Atomic age to me.

[Zonker]

Yes, the recent Overstreet revisionism tries to extend Bronze all the way to 1984/1985 with Secret Wars and Crisis on Infinite Earths beginning their new "Copper Age" (yuck!)

 

Doesn't sit well with me, but there you have it.

[divad]

Yes, the recent Overstreet revisionism tries to extend Bronze all the way to 1984/1985 with Secret Wars and Crisis on Infinite Earths beginning their new "Copper Age" (yuck!)

 

Doesn't sit well with me, but there you have it.

 

Yeah, me too, but what do THEY know

[divad]

Personally, I consider Miller's Daredevils NOT Bronze Age Books, but hey, don't ask me - I was only there buying every book in existance at the time.

[awe4one]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

[Sal]

for me, the Bronze Age ended when Byrne left X-Men. In a revisionist sense, that is, since I never really thought about it at the time

[divad]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

 

I don't disagree, but we're all "revisionists"

[ArAich]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

 

 

Ditto...

[divad]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

 

Although, I must say, assigning books to ages based on cover price alone is less than inspiring . . . and often inaccurate.

[shadroch]

While I'm willing to go a little beyond the .35 cent cutoff I used to use,there is no way I can call any EPIC or Baxter paper comic a bronze age book. Not with a straight face anyway.Dreadstar,Coyote,Omega Men,Camelot 3000,Ronin and Dark Knight just can't be squeezed into the same grouping as The Kree-Skrull War,the Thanos Saga, Green Lantern-Green Arrow and Manhunter. Its simply impossible. Different time,different market. i'm not sure what the right answer is,but I know what the wrong one is.

[tth2]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

I go 15-35 cents. I just don't view 15 cent books as SA. There's something magical about that 12 cent number.

[awe4one]

Although, I must say, assigning books to ages based on cover price alone is less than inspiring . . . and often inaccurate.

 

But practical from a collecting standpoint. No need to know the year/date of an issue. Just define the age per cover price and you make your collecting much easier. Is it exact? No. But neither is the current circle jerk attempt to define Ages.

 

And in regards to moving Bronze to as late as 1984/5...my apologies to Arnold and the OS gang but it smacks of dealer preference in my opinion. The conventional wisdom for years among the vast majority of collectors based on firsthand knowledge and columns in comic-related publications was Bronze ending no later than 1980 or, if you had to have an event to mark it, the end of the Byrne X-Men run. Now OS is trying to move that benchmark out further. Seems like a ploy to get more comics designated Bronze to increase their desirability in the market. Could be right or wrong on the subject but that's my opinion and you'd be hard pressed to find an argument to change it...

 

Jim

[nearmint]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

I go 15-35 cents. I just don't view 15 cent books as SA. There's something magical about that 12 cent number.

 

That's my thinking, exactly. I just can't imagine all of Adams' work in Detective being part of the Silver Age.

[drbanner]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

 

Ditto...

 

Double Dog Ditto...

[precodekeith]

And in regards to moving Bronze to as late as 1984/5...my apologies to Arnold and the OS gang but it smacks of dealer preference in my opinion.... Seems like a ploy to get more comics designated Bronze to increase their desirability in the market.

Jim

 

Ayuh! Sounds fishy!

[valiantman]

The cover price method won't work for Cerebus.

 

 

Well, once again... the logical conclusion is that the 1970s are Bronze... the 1980s aren't.

The 1990s were their own "animal", and then starting in 2000, things are "new again".

 

So, after the Silver Age...

what's the problem with just using decades instead of ages again?

[divad]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

I go 15-35 cents. I just don't view 15 cent books as SA. There's something magical about that 12 cent number.

 

That's my thinking, exactly. I just can't imagine all of Adams' work in Detective being part of the Silver Age.

 

I generally feel the same way, but there are notable exceptions to this rule. Two that come to mind immediately: Fantastic Four #112 and Conan #1 - both covers are strict Silver Age compositions by any analysis, and both bear 15 cent cover price

 

Also, Sub-Mariner #8-15

[jbud73]

Coverpriced 20-35 Cents is Bronze in my book...despite what the revisionists try to claim...

 

Jim

I go 15-35 cents. I just don't view 15 cent books as SA. There's something magical about that 12 cent number.

 

That's my thinking, exactly. I just can't imagine all of Adams' work in Detective being part of the Silver Age.

 

I generally feel the same way, but there are notable exceptions to this rule. Two that come to mind immediately: Fantastic Four #112 and Conan #1 - both covers are strict Silver Age compositions by any analysis, and both bear 15 cent cover price

 

Also, Sub-Mariner #8-15

 

Alot of people will argue that Conan #1 STARTED the BA

 

And the lines of transition for me are the end of the Byrne X-Men run and the beginning of the New Teen Titans #1 and SOTST 21 as the introduction of Copper. There is a bit more of a transition from Bronze to Copper (than from SA to BA), but that transition does NOT extend into 1984. It does reek of dealer $$$ driven revisionism does it not?