inthehottub Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 wow lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach04 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 This is unfortunate. Hopefully it can be worked out as a legend like Starlin not being part of SS going forward would be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal_Collector Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Lesson there, receive money before giving the books back. This is sad, the whole reason why I love CGC is because they help reduce forgers and the like, hope it doesn't spread. Besides, who doesn't like quick, easy money for 2 seconds of work? Jerome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickG Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 48 minutes ago, wombat said: There is a thread on this in the sig forum. He apparently is saying in another facebook post he got stiffed on a CGC signing fee. And also is saying the CGC witness walked away and didn't actually witness the sigs. Isn't their policy with name creators that they don't need a witness on hand if the creator vouches for it when the witness picks it up? That was, I think, designed to be creator friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthehottub Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) Yes. The books never left Jim Starlin's presence after they were signed until picked up by the CGC witness. If they would have left his presence they would be ineligible. He did sign the books but did not get paid. It is a misunderstanding that can be fixed. Edited May 14, 2017 by inthehottub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Maybe the CGC witness suffers from A.D.D? Courageous Cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Maybe he saw something shiny Courageous Cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Seems a little unfair to punish the rest of the individuals for one person being a jerk but hey, rock on greggy and Jeffro. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I can see a lot of flippers and speculators getting their panties all bunched up. Respect the man's decision. He's not getting any royalties after a book he created and signed gets passed around like a drunken whore at a frat house. fastballspecial, F For Fake and Courageous Cat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 54 minutes ago, inthehottub said: Yes. The books never left Jim Starlin's presence after they were signed until picked up by the CGC witness. If they would have left his presence they would be ineligible. He did sign the books but did not get paid. It is a misunderstanding that can be fixed. How would CGC know if the books left his possession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid08 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I hate SS as much as the next guy but Starlin's opinion is a...ignorant one to have. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweandlorder Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I no need witness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweandlorder Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 When Starlin signs, the signature witnesses him! Lethal_Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Good for him - it's a ridiculous scheme to generate even more money from manufactured collectibles. fastballspecial, cranky's and Readcomix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, divad said: Good for him - it's a ridiculous scheme to generate even more money from manufactured collectibles. This is a bit harsh. Sure, in the old days of comic conventions creators would sign books for free, and my recollection is they were thrilled to do so, and hear from the book owners how much their stories and art meant to them. But now the comic collectibles market has grown exponentially, and creators want to get paid for adding value to the books they sign on the works they helped create. If the Signature Series builds that market, helping the creators to sign more books and make more money, then it seems perfectly fine to me that CGC as the facilitator of the process should make money as well for managing the process and growing the market for authenticated signatures. As for Jim Starlin, a creator whose work I especially loved when it was new, cool, and fresh and just hitting the newsstand, he can continue to sign books for fans without CGC being involved, and fans can still get the thrill of meeting him and having him autograph something that gave them joy. No harm, no foul on anyone. Edited May 14, 2017 by namisgr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-DONIS Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 7 hours ago, inthehottub said: Completely uneducated about how CGC and the Signature Series program works. No one at CGC is making a dime off Starlin signed books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1Cool Posted May 14, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, A-DONIS said: Completely uneducated about how CGC and the Signature Series program works. No one at CGC is making a dime off Starlin signed books. It's an extra $10 for the SS slab. So CGC is making $10 for witnessing the signature since the slabbing process is the same unless yellow ink cost more. Edited May 14, 2017 by 1Cool KEY ISSUES Comics, F For Fake, oldmilwaukee6er and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) I can understand his stance since it does not take much to push these guys over the edge, especially when they see the extra money their signatures bring. While we would like to think this is an isolated incident, unfortunately it's not. I have personally witnesses people fail to donate money to the heroes initiative after the artist said that was all they required for their signature. Edited May 14, 2017 by joeypost fastballspecial, Prince Namor, badback83 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 7 hours ago, jsilverjanet said: Seems a little unfair to punish the rest of the individuals for one person being a jerk but hey, rock on No one gets a cookie! Adam Hughes and some other artists stopped sketching after one last person sold the sketch on ebay. One bad apple often ruins the bunch, true. Prince Namor and Lethal_Collector 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...