bentbryan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 hours ago, fantastic_four said: You could come up with a list of 100 things to hate about Empire OR Return of the Jedi. Billy Dee as the token black guy, or Yoda merging the Muppets into Star Wars, or Ewoks and Endor replacing Wookies and Kashyyyk just because Chewbacca toys weren't selling as well as teddy bears would have. I could keep going, but what we lacked at the time was twofold--the Internet to create an echo chamber of hate, and a generation of kids too young to see the weaknesses of the original trilogy who were old enough to see those problems by 1999 once the Phantom Menace and every subsequent film came out. I would disagree about problems with the OT on the same level as the PT. Yes the ewoks are silly but the rest of that body of work holds up very well. I think a lot of that credit would go to Kasdan. The prequels are just...way too much. But I entirely agree with you about the online echo chamber. It can be brutal and unfortunately it doesn’t take too many bad seeds to make a whole lotta noise. Mr Sneeze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentbryan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, mattn792 said: I read Spider-Man 3 plot twist and confirmation of one of those spoilers I previously saw...even with low expectations already established, I'm getting that Ark of the Covenant feeling again. I caught two very direct nods to Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 8:26 AM, Bosco685 said: Non-spoiler- Reviewers loved it so much, there were certain scenes where they cried. And they do plan on going back repeatedly to see it. I haven't seen it yet but seriously.\ Disney = pulling at your heartstrings since 1985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, @therealsilvermane said: or even the story of Jesus. Jesus lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said: I haven't seen it yet but seriously.\ Disney = pulling at your heartstrings since 1985 I'm definitely not handing my money over with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said: Jesus lost Meant more Jesus' saying "the meek shall inherit the Earth." But Jesus did conquer death when he arose three days later on Easter, ascended to heaven to be seated next to God the Father, and now presides over a religion that rules the Western World which began when it conquered the Roman Empire, the same institution that crucified him. Historically and spiritually, Jesus absolutely won. Edited December 23, 2019 by @therealsilvermane Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larryw7 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I would like to know what Lucas really thinks of this train wreck of a movie. He didn't even attend the Premiere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TupennyConan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 It was a great movie. I like pie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The Rise of Skywalker might be the first Star Wars movie to make people cry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, @therealsilvermane said: Meant more Jesus' saying "the meek shall inherit the Earth." that was Matthew 5:5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said: that was Matthew 5:5 Yes. The Beatitudes of Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paperheart Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, @therealsilvermane said: The Rise of Skywalker might be the first Star Wars movie to make people cry? of joy that the trilogy is over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Domestic actuals were a tiny bit higher, International actuals were slightly lower. And the RT critic score dipped from 58%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, paperheart said: of joy that the trilogy is over? I have it on record that folks I know and folks that they know and so on, cried during Leia's big scene and Rey's two scenes at the end. I'm not sure folks cried when Vader died or when Luke died last movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, TupennyConan said: It was a great movie. What did you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Going more with the lost scripts as possible inspiration... Spoiler Lucasfilm had worked on a TV show called Star Wars Underworld, one of the storylines involved a love interest with Palpatine. Something along the lines of Palpatine getting his feelings hurt and his love interest had ties to the criminal underworld. Anyway, its interesting..... Edited December 23, 2019 by Rip bentbryan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TupennyConan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said: What did you see? It was great. Loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Bosco685 said: Domestic actuals were a tiny bit higher, International actuals were slightly lower. And the RT critic score dipped from 58%. I am confident to make one guarentee. It will beat Solo at the box office. zhamlau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
