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Are Newton Rings 'normal and acceptable'?
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Are Newton Rings 'normal and acceptable' ?  

293 members have voted

  1. 1. Are Newton Rings 'normal and acceptable'?

    • Yes
    • No
    • Other (feel free to post any alternative views accordingly)
  2. 2. Should CGC withdraw from service any holders which create / are prone to create Newton Rings?

    • Yes
    • No
    • Other (feel free to post any alternative views accordingly)
  3. 3. Are you satisfied with CGC's response to date to this issue?

    • Yes
    • No
    • Other (feel free to post any alternative views accordingly)


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1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

after.jpg.36cbef8fb1a4efc011b3395059f141 look deep into the Newton Rings Eye's, it'll tell you a secret

I'm looking....it's ....hypnotic....drawing me in. ..... It's speaking to me..... saying....to me..........."you paid for this, you mug"

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2 minutes ago, Mr.Mcknowitall said:

:preach:

In all seriousness, the rings really are hard to look at, but I will say that sometimes when there are only as many as the old cases, I can see how CGC says their content with them.

But these recent issues are like water boarding a comic..... @Get Marwood & I

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3 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

In all seriousness, the rings really are hard to look at, but I will say that sometimes when there are only as many as the old cases, I can see how CGC says their content with them.

But these recent issues are like water boarding a comic..... @Get Marwood & I

Hello. What do you want?

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2 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

In all seriousness, the rings really are hard to look at, but I will say that sometimes when there are only as many as the old cases, I can see how CGC says their content with them.

But these recent issues are like water boarding a comic..... @Get Marwood & I

Absolutely agree, and more so when a sister Entity of the Host does not have the problem with Holders whose inert material is in full contact, without any Rings.

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1 minute ago, Get Marwood & I said:

:grin:

I know....the Host can't do :ph34r: for much longer, before customer :sumo: becomes :jaws:and the result is (worship) to the customer wishes.

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1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Is this the window where I make a complaint? I would like some ketchup or barbecue sauce for my rings, please!

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Love those guys..... had them both in my High School Class.....

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1 minute ago, Mr.Mcknowitall said:

Love those guys..... had them both in my High School Class.....

Kevin Smith has lost a lot of weight now after his heart attack :foryou: glad he took it seriously 

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1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Kevin Smith has lost a lot of weight now after his heart attack :foryou: glad he took it seriously 

So am I. I like his humor delivery very much. I want him around for a while. 

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OK so I took a few days off from this thread to kind of let the aggravation settle. I'm still confused as to whether there is a fix in place. And by fix I mean something that CGC is doing to correct the issue, not what they SHOULD do to fix it. Or what they can do to fix it. In other words has anyone actually gotten a reholdered comic yet that has taken the problem away? I'm also curious how everyone is getting a picture of their rings. They are as plain as day to me but to photograph them is an entirely different story. I have tried holding the slab at different angles and using different cameras but its nothing like the pics people are posting. Anyone? Anyone?

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56 minutes ago, Ride the Tiger said:

OK so I took a few days off from this thread to kind of let the aggravation settle. I'm still confused as to whether there is a fix in place. And by fix I mean something that CGC is doing to correct the issue, not what they SHOULD do to fix it. Or what they can do to fix it. In other words has anyone actually gotten a reholdered comic yet that has taken the problem away? I'm also curious how everyone is getting a picture of their rings. They are as plain as day to me but to photograph them is an entirely different story. I have tried holding the slab at different angles and using different cameras but its nothing like the pics people are posting. Anyone? Anyone?

If you look back at what I quoted you way back when, there was a paragraph saying that they continue to research and have found a slight modification that has produced quality results and to email Brittany with pictures of "excessive" Newton rings to get the reholder. I apologize, I should have Bolden that part when quoted.

There are some here who doubt this "fix" . Since I only had the 1 book that was deemed excessive, I sent it in and is currently at verified status.

There where rings on old cases that where so minimal that when the new cases have the same minimal rings, I can understand why cgc says they are acceptable. I won't judge your books as this is a sensitive subject and is better left to cgc to decide :foryou:

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On 8/31/2018 at 3:13 PM, CGC Comics said:

Thank you for your feedback.

 

 

The “rainbow effect” or “Newton rings” are a normal occurrence when two different plastics (which have different refractive indexes) are placed together. It’s what you sometimes see on a smartphone screen protector or on the edges of an LCD screen. 

 

 

 

The rainbow effect has been seen in CGC holders since our first-generation holder was introduced nearly 20 years ago. This is a result of the inner sleeve (which holds the book) contacting the hard-plastic outer shell; the two different plastics have different refractive indexes and that sometimes creates a rainbow effect when they come into contact. A minor rainbow effect has always been within our tolerance. If anyone feels that they have a book that exhibits an extreme rainbow effect, however, we encourage you to contact our Customer Service at submissions@cgccomics.com.

 

 

 

Behind the scenes, we are constantly working to improve the CGC holder. Most recently, we have made a slight modification to the inner dimensions of our standard holder to accommodate the increasing variety of comic book sizes and paper stocks. In our testing, this minor modification was also shown to reduce the presence of the rainbow effect for many books. We did not want to share our findings until our thorough testing was complete, and now that it is, we are pleased to report that these modified holders have been fully integrated into our encapsulation process with very positive results.

 

 

 

CGC continues to research enhancements to its holders, including ones that may further reduce the rainbow effect, and we will keep you updated with any noteworthy developments.

 

 

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

Example of extreme rainbow effect:

 

saga.jpg

 

Here it is Bolden for people who missed it. I empathize for us who have books with excessive Newton rings. It's happened to me, so I get it. Without a statement from CGC with promising results for so long, I can empathize with this who now doubt when these new promises come.

However we asked for a fix, we have a statement of a fix, the only way to get results is HOLD THEM TO THEIR WORD! And send them in for reholder for free and "LET" them prove it....

Spoiler

 

Hopefully this fix is real so we can see your AF #15 graded @Get Marwood & I :shy: :foryou:


 

 

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Tag Marwood he'll cheer me up :wishluck:
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