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Not a comic book and not original art, but I need to post this somewhere, so...

 

5 or 6 months ago Mike Royer was having a garage sale. Someone familiar with his work (or rather Kirby's work) mentioned wishing he could get a hold of a Kirby signature. Mike told him he had something he'd be willing to sell if he could find them. Some time later Mike did find them, but the buyer never replied to Mike's messages. So I bought them instead :winnah:

 

Back in 1969 Mike acquired these stat sheets for The Fantastic Four #12. He can't remember from who, or who made the copies. He purchased them because "page" 1 was signed by Jack Kirby. I cannot remember if he said he bought them before or after he met The King that year, but it was the first item Kirby had ever inscribed for him ("page" 14).

 

Aside from the initial signature and subsequent inscription, I have no idea how collectible stat sheets like these are, but they rate high on my coolness factor. Especially for a Royer collector like me. Obviously it doesn't contain Mike's work, but it is a significant item in his history with Kirby, and I'm proud to be the one who will now take care of it.

 

25 pages, so they're wrapped in a spoiler.

 

FF12STATS01of25_zps13cc16cd.jpgFF12STATS02of25_zps807b9bcb.jpgFF12STATS03of25_zps6244aa07.jpgFF12STATS04of25_zps787d48fe.jpgFF12STATS05of25_zps66c524af.jpgFF12STATS06of25_zps947eb08a.jpgFF12STATS07of25_zpsceab36cd.jpgFF12STATS08of25_zps64445998.jpgFF12STATS09of25_zps191f958a.jpgFF12STATS10of25_zpse295dc2f.jpgFF12STATS11of25_zps1d2f5d8a.jpgFF12STATS12of25_zps3bb23665.jpgFF12STATS13of25_zps138ee38c.jpgFF12STATS14of25_zpse4265d05.jpgFF12STATS15of25_zps364b18cf.jpgFF12STATS16of25_zpsdeef67fa.jpgFF12STATS17of25_zpse341c649.jpgFF12STATS18of25_zps54d6c906.jpgFF12STATS19of25_zpsdf991242.jpgFF12STATS20of25_zpsea63edbc.jpgFF12STATS21of25_zps3d03fc1b.jpgFF12STATS22of25_zps51b262b0.jpgFF12STATS23of25_zpsd7b07c19.jpgFF12STATS24of25_zps49cab8bc.jpgFF12STATS25of25_zps0debeb05.jpg

 

 

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Not a comic book and not original art, but I need to post this somewhere, so...

 

5 or 6 months ago Mike Royer was having a garage sale. Someone familiar with his work (or rather Kirby's work) mentioned wishing he could get a hold of a Kirby signature. Mike told him he had something he'd be willing to sell if he could find them. Some time later Mike did find them, but the buyer never replied to Mike's messages. So I bought them instead :winnah:

 

Back in 1969 Mike acquired these stat sheets for The Fantastic Four #12. He can't remember from who, or who made the copies. He purchased them because "page" 1 was signed by Jack Kirby. I cannot remember if he said he bought them before or after he met The King that year, but it was the first item Kirby had ever inscribed for him ("page" 14).

 

Aside from the initial signature and subsequent inscription, I have no idea how collectible stat sheets like these are, but they rate high on my coolness factor. Especially for a Royer collector like me. Obviously it doesn't contain Mike's work, but it is a significant item in his history with Kirby, and I'm proud to be the one who will now take care of it.

 

25 pages, so they're wrapped in a spoiler.

 

FF12STATS01of25_zps13cc16cd.jpgFF12STATS02of25_zps807b9bcb.jpgFF12STATS03of25_zps6244aa07.jpgFF12STATS04of25_zps787d48fe.jpgFF12STATS05of25_zps66c524af.jpgFF12STATS06of25_zps947eb08a.jpgFF12STATS07of25_zpsceab36cd.jpgFF12STATS08of25_zps64445998.jpgFF12STATS09of25_zps191f958a.jpgFF12STATS10of25_zpse295dc2f.jpgFF12STATS11of25_zps1d2f5d8a.jpgFF12STATS12of25_zps3bb23665.jpgFF12STATS13of25_zps138ee38c.jpgFF12STATS14of25_zpse4265d05.jpgFF12STATS15of25_zps364b18cf.jpgFF12STATS16of25_zpsdeef67fa.jpgFF12STATS17of25_zpse341c649.jpgFF12STATS18of25_zps54d6c906.jpgFF12STATS19of25_zpsdf991242.jpgFF12STATS20of25_zpsea63edbc.jpgFF12STATS21of25_zps3d03fc1b.jpgFF12STATS22of25_zps51b262b0.jpgFF12STATS23of25_zpsd7b07c19.jpgFF12STATS24of25_zps49cab8bc.jpgFF12STATS25of25_zps0debeb05.jpg

 

 

those are really cool -- what is a stat sheet exactly? What part of the printing process is this used for?

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those are really cool -- what is a stat sheet exactly? What part of the printing process is this used for?

 

 

Thanks! To be honest, I'm not exactly sure these can be called stats. And I'm not even sure these have anything to do with the production. When I have time I'll have to wade through the search function results and google. Or I could ask Mike lol but talking comics only makes up maybe 10% of our visits. He'd rather talk pre code Hollywood, Westerns filmed in Lone Pine, Zorro or Buck Rogers lol . He owns literally thousands of DVD's. It's an amazing collection.

 

Anyway, these are copies, so for all I know some Marvel employee Xeroxed the proofs and had JK sign them in '69. Mike bought them and asked his new boss to inscribe them. As I said, Mike can't remember their origin (it was 46 years ago).

These sheets also include the ads found in FF12, but naturally I figured nobody would want to see all of those.

 

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looking at it seems like a mix of trimmed up original art that is inked side by side with advertising copy. I say that because if it had color to the original there would be more shading in the copy. Are you saying these pages are on old school Xerox paper (as Xerox was only available in black and white in the 1960s-- I think) ? i,e, paper thin

 

or are they mounted on card stock of some sort as they show up in your scans as extremely flat with bold lines.

 

did a little digging and found this article that may shed some light on what this was from--

http://forbushman.blogspot.com/

 

scroll down to the part about how they are made. I think this is around step 6 and these are photostats -- or Stats sheets for short

 

Step 6. The Colorist. Photostats are made from the inked copy and sent to the colorist, who indicates to the engraver what color goes where—usually with a magic marker or water color The engraver does the final coloring. A colorist gets $5 a page and can do eight or nine a day
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looking at it seems like a mix of trimmed up original art that is inked side by side with advertising copy. I say that because if it had color to the original there would be more shading in the copy. Are you saying these pages are on old school Xerox paper (as Xerox was only available in black and white in the 1960s-- I think) ? i,e, paper thin

 

or are they mounted on card stock of some sort as they show up in your scans as extremely flat with bold lines.

 

did a little digging and found this article that may shed some light on what this was from--

http://forbushman.blogspot.com/

 

scroll down to the part about how they are made. I think this is around step 6 and these are photostats -- or Stats sheets for short

 

Step 6. The Colorist. Photostats are made from the inked copy and sent to the colorist, who indicates to the engraver what color goes where—usually with a magic marker or water color The engraver does the final coloring. A colorist gets $5 a page and can do eight or nine a day

 

That sounds pretty close to what these are, but I'm not too sure about the 4 pages per sheet layout being the norm. These are indeed Xerox copies on smooth, glossy poster type paper.

There is a temptation for me to break these down into individual pages, making them easier to view and appreciate, but my Spider Sense warns me to do more research. Value makes no difference to me for these, but I don't want to ruin something that is meant to be a certain way. Especially with 2 Kirby sigs on them.

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