MBFan Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 A fellow collector in my state says he's been getting the grader note "canvassing" from CGC on a number of his books. There is no such term in the Glossary on the CGC site. I suspect "canvassing" may be a new way to refer to pressed comics whose covers are not smooth. Anyone know for sure what "canvassing" means?
Bomber-Bob Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, MBFan said: A fellow collector in my state says he's been getting the grader note "canvassing" from CGC on a number of his books. There is no such term in the Glossary on the CGC site. I suspect "canvassing" may be a new way to refer to pressed comics whose covers are not smooth. Anyone know for sure what "canvassing" means? I don't know but he may be submitting his books to CCS for a review. They will recommend whether the book can benefit from a press. Strange use of the term canvassing. Never heard it before in relation to CGC or comic books.
MBFan Posted January 27, 2019 Author Posted January 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said: I don't know but he may be submitting his books to CCS for a review. They will recommend whether the book can benefit from a press. Strange use of the term canvassing. Never heard it before in relation to CGC or comic books. The person is a presser, so he doesn't send books to CCS. He says the term "canvassing" has popped up in grader notes on some books that are currently being shipped back to him.
Bomber-Bob Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 1 minute ago, MBFan said: The person is a presser, so he doesn't send books to CCS. He says the term "canvassing" has popped up in grader notes on some books that are currently being shipped back to him. Interesting. I have never seen this word in grader's notes. I hope someone else can give some information on this.
Tony S Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) I have never seen the term used either. It suggests as others have noted that the books cover isn't smooth - having a canvas like texture to the surface. But CGC already has a term for that - pebbling. Where the book was improperly pressed and picked up the texture of whatever it was squished up against during pressing. The person should just call CGC and ask. The customer service person that answers the phone will go ask a grader. Or maybe even THE grader that made the note. And of course they should stop what they are doing until they figure it out. Edited January 27, 2019 by Tony S TheWatcher and The Lions Den 2
JollyComics Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 I have heard that word from my union - it has to do with the election between a canvasser (gather information from the voters included me) and campaign (voting booth and advertising). It's weird to use that word to describe the pressing defect.
Bomber-Bob Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, JollyComics said: I have heard that word from my union - it has to do with the election between a canvasser (gather information from the voters included me) and campaign (voting booth and advertising). It's weird to use that word to describe the pressing defect. The gathering of information is the traditionaI meaning of the word. It appears CGC has created a new meaning. Tony S 1
Bomber-Bob Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, comicdonna said: I wish one of us had the notes so we could specifically ask CGC but this is a case of a guy who knows guy who knows a guy. Tony S 1
Karl Liebl Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said: I wish one of us had the notes so we could specifically ask CGC but this is a case of a guy who knows guy who knows a guy. All of your graded books have canvassing Bob, please resubmit for new labels... Bomber-Bob 1
Karl Liebl Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Just saying! Since nobody knows what canvassing is yet we could all be subject to this newly found defect!! Tony S 1
MBFan Posted January 27, 2019 Author Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said: I wish one of us had the notes so we could specifically ask CGC but this is a case of a guy who knows guy who knows a guy. The guy I know says he's checking directly with CGC tomorrow when the office is open again. I'll keep you posted. Bomber-Bob and Tony S 1 1
MBFan Posted January 27, 2019 Author Posted January 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Tony S said: I have never seen the term used either. It suggests as others have noted that the books cover isn't smooth - having a canvas like texture to the surface. But CGC already has a term for that - pebbling. Where the book was improperly pressed and picked up the texture of whatever it was squished up against during pressing. Just now checked CGC's online Glossary. Pebbling is not listed there. Tony S 1
JollyComics Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, MBFan said: Just now checked CGC's online Glossary. Pebbling is not listed there. https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/3773/improper-pressing-pebbling/ Bomber-Bob and Tony S 2
MBFan Posted January 28, 2019 Author Posted January 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, JollyComics said: https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/3773/improper-pressing-pebbling/ Thanks. Many of us were aware of that already, but Pebbling nor Canvassing are listed in the glossary. Here's a link to the glossary. https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/glossary/ Tony S 1
joeypost Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) If I had to garner a guess I would say the texture of the book looks like a canvas you would paint on, not canvassing like the police do after a crime. Edited January 28, 2019 by joeypost The Lions Den 1
Bomber-Bob Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, joeypost said: If I had to garner a guess I would say the texture of the book look like a canvas you would paint on, not canvassing like the police do after a crime. I think you are right but apparently they have, in house, invented a new meaning for the word ! I know I would be confused if I saw this term in notes. This is a classic case of the engineer using terms the layman cannot understand. Perhaps if they said something like 'canvass like texture' instead of canvassing it would have been more appropriate.
JollyComics Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, joeypost said: If I had to garner a guess I would say the texture of the book look like a canvas you would paint on, not canvassing like the police do after a crime. I think the same thing. But the glossary doesn't match the terminology for pressing defects here.
Popular Post MBFan Posted January 28, 2019 Author Popular Post Posted January 28, 2019 CGC has responded, and "canvassing" is indeed a pressing issue: "Canvassing refers to a pattern that has been pressed into the cover during pressing, likely from whatever surface was used against it. It looks like a cross stitched pattern." My friend reports that he's been using teflon sheets (which often have a light weave texture) when pressing books and is going back to silicone paper. comicginger1789, The Lions Den, B2D327 and 3 others 3 3
Popular Post joeypost Posted January 28, 2019 Popular Post Posted January 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, MBFan said: CGC has responded, and "canvassing" is indeed a pressing issue: "Canvassing refers to a pattern that has been pressed into the cover during pressing, likely from whatever surface was used against it. It looks like a cross stitched pattern." My friend reports that he's been using teflon sheets (which often have a light weave texture) when pressing books and is going back to silicone paper. Another short cut shot down by CGC. For anyone who wants to press books there is only one way to do it... the right way. I suspected it was this Teflon material as I have seen others use it and I noticed this light texture that was pressed into the covers. I have worked on two books like this and removing it is not easy. Hopefully your friend has insurance or will cover you for the damage he has caused to the books already graded with this issue. telerites, Logan510, Iconic1s and 5 others 8
