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[telerites]

51 minutes ago, buttock said:

This book has a fascinating history. Bob Beerbohm first saw it at a convention when another collector managed to buy all the San Francisco timely prior to him seeing them. He found out that that collector was paying 25% of retail which made Bob recognize that he could pay even less than that at times. This set him out on a career path where he dedicated himself every day striving to rip people off in greater and greater ways.  Ultimately culminating in a career where he takes great pride and being able to rip off children, widows, and any other downtrodden folk.

His tirades on FB are ludicrous and speak to his true persona and not to belittle anyone's illness (especially since I have been and am faced on a daily basis by life changing medical issues) but his playing on folks' sympathies to buy from him because of his issues and I believe also those of his daughter did not sit well with me.   He actually has a piece of OA that I wouldn't mind buying but I refuse to buy from this type of person.  

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

1 hour ago, buttock said:

This book has a fascinating history. Bob Beerbohm first saw it at a convention when another collector managed to buy all the San Francisco timely prior to him seeing them. He found out that that collector was paying 25% of retail which made Bob recognize that he could pay even less than that at times. This set him out on a career path where he dedicated himself every day striving to rip people off in greater and greater ways.  Ultimately culminating in a career where he takes great pride and being able to rip off children, widows, and any other downtrodden folk.

Is this the consensus about Beerbohm? I talked to the guy about 20 minutes years and years ago and liked him. But I never did business with him, so I don’t know

[comicjack]

2 hours ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

Is this the consensus about Beerbohm? I talked to the guy about 20 minutes years and years ago and liked him. But I never did business with him, so I don’t know

You got away cheap 

[Mr. Lady Luck]

This is slightly off-subject... but...

Are the turtles really back already for the very next signature auction??

https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/p/7212-26001.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

[Bronty]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Lady Luck said:

This is slightly off-subject... but...

Are the turtles really back already for the very next signature auction??

https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/p/7212-26001.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

at one point they were listed in the same auction.    they moved one back to november.   So, yes.

[buttock]

4 hours ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

Is this the consensus about Beerbohm? I talked to the guy about 20 minutes years and years ago and liked him. But I never did business with him, so I don’t know

In my opinion he's the single worst person in comics.  If anyone has anything nice to say about him, the floor is open. 

[lou_fine]

5 hours ago, Bronty said:

5 hours ago, Mr. Lady Luck said:

This is slightly off-subject... but...

Are the turtles really back already for the very next signature auction??

https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/p/7212-26001.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

at one point they were listed in the same auction.    they moved one back to november.   So, yes.

Well, if the second copy goes for only half of what this recent copy managed to fetch which many of you seem to suspect will happen, I can bet you that the second consignor will be totally pissed off.    

Especially if it was Heritage that made the call on which 9.8 graded copy would go first and which copy would go next.  

Edited August 6, 2019 by lou_fine

[lou_fine]

3 hours ago, buttock said:

8 hours ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

Is this the consensus about Beerbohm? I talked to the guy about 20 minutes years and years ago and liked him. But I never did business with him, so I don’t know

In my opinion he's the single worst person in comics.  If anyone has anything nice to say about him, the floor is open. 

Have we all forgotten about Danny Dupchak, although he was always good for some hilarious stories while he was trying to con you.  

[buttock]

13 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

Have we all forgotten about Danny Dupchak, although he was always good for some hilarious stories while he was trying to con you.  

I considered him, Gerry Ross, Doug Schmell, and it wasn't even close.  Beerbohm ripped off Jerry Bails' widow after he died.  Him, Gerber, and Schmell are the only one I know who pulled that garbage on old ladies.  The others are just con men.  

[quicksilver]

Sometimes it's good to hear when others agree with your own opinions...

[gino2paulus2]

On 8/3/2019 at 12:23 AM, lou_fine said:

Well, again being the contrarian that I am, I've always much preferred the Blue Beetle 52 over the much more highly acknowledged classic BB 54 cover myself. 

I've always loved the bright blue, green, and red color combinations on Blue Beetle 52.  

I tend to agree with you on this one but love them both. I think the 54 being used in SOTI is a big draw for folks. When it comes to the series Blue Beetle itself I MUCH prefer issues 10,11, and 12 over both 52 and 54 and all 3 are significantly tougher to find than either the 52 or 54. Anything Blue Beetle is awesome though. I know that probably isn’t the popular opinion so I will run back to the rock I was hiding behind haha!!

[lou_fine]

7 hours ago, gino2paulus2 said:

I tend to agree with you on this one but love them both. I think the 54 being used in SOTI is a big draw for folks. When it comes to the series Blue Beetle itself I MUCH prefer issues 10,11, and 12 over both 52 and 54 and all 3 are significantly tougher to find than either the 52 or 54. Anything Blue Beetle is awesome though. I know that probably isn’t the popular opinion so I will run back to the rock I was hiding behind haha!!

Well, it's definitely hard to beat a "woman in bondage" cover when it comes to GGA art.  

Boy, that blond woman in the red dress still hasn't managed to figure a way out after six whole long months or does she simply enjoy being in that position?  

BTW:  Is your better half aware of your apparent fetish with woman in bondage?  

[jimbo_7071]

On 8/6/2019 at 6:38 PM, buttock said:

I considered him, Gerry Ross, Doug Schmell, and it wasn't even close.  Beerbohm ripped off Jerry Bails' widow after he died.  Him, Gerber, and Schmell are the only one I know who pulled that garbage on old ladies.  The others are just con men.  

When you mentioned the worst people in comics, the three that I thought of were Mark Wilson, Doug Schmell, and Jay Maybruck, not necessarily in that order.

I wasn't familiar with Gerry Ross, but I just did some reading of old threads and agree that he close to the top of the list.

I've had some online conversations with Bob Beerbohm and found him to be affable and very knowledgeable about comics. I've never purchased anything from him.

 

[lou_fine]

On 8/3/2019 at 6:55 AM, skybolt said:

On 8/3/2019 at 1:37 AM, lou_fine said:

Well, it looks like PL 17 has SS 4 beat by about 25 years then since I remember PL 17 already being flagged and singled out in the Overstreet guide as far back as the mid to late 70's.

I guess I was lucky in being able to stumble my way onto my copy of Seven Seas 4 back in the mid 90's when it was still below everybody's radar.  

It's awesome that you've kept the book all these years. 

I am quite sure that the older generation of long term comic book collectors have probably kept all of their books much longer than me.  

Definitely the case since my original off the shelf collection only goes back as far as the BA mid-70's where they are all still sitting around somewhere in those old poly bags that I shove them in after cherry picking them off the shelves of the LCS.

Definitely different from today's generation of CGC collectors or even moreso with the CPR speculative flipping crowd where it often seems that holding onto a book for even more than a whole day must feel like absolute prison time to them.  

[gino2paulus2]

6 hours ago, lou_fine said:

Well, it's definitely hard to beat a "woman in bondage" cover when it comes to GGA art.  

Boy, that blond woman in the red dress still hasn't managed to figure a way out after six whole long months or does she simply enjoy being in that position?  

BTW:  Is your better half aware of your apparent fetish with woman in bondage?  

hehehehe so true!!!!! 

Yes she is totally aware of it and digs it haha!!! She knows I enjoy the capes swooping in to save the day and nothing more gentlemen like to save a woman in distress 😊 The straight bondage covers I wouldn’t go for UNLESS like I said there was a depiction of someone (preferably a super hero) on his or her way to rectify the situation!! 

Edited August 9, 2019 by gino2paulus2

[Ricksneatstuff]

On 8/2/2019 at 2:46 PM, Sqeggs said:

To me, SS 4 is a far better cover than PL 17. I actually prefer Kamen's cover to PL 23 to PL 17. I'm probably in the minority on both counts, though. 

I like Seven Seas 4 as well. 

But my winning this copy was not intentional 

 

Edited August 9, 2019 by Ricksneatstuff

[lou_fine]

22 minutes ago, Ricksneatstuff said:

I like Seven Seas 4 as well. 

But my winning this copy was not intentional 

 

So, are you saying this was just a thrill bid on your part here, with the full expectation that another bidder would come in and toss a higher bid on the book?  

[lou_fine]

Well, since I also love the other Christmas color (i.e. green) on covers, I would just as well go after this book here:

Well, not necessarily the Church copy here, but any nice copy of this book here since it would sell at a fraction of what the Seven Seas 4 fetches in today's red hot GGA cover marketplace. 

I imagine if the cover image of the girl was larger and we could see the actual close-up menacing eyes of the octopus, it would be much more of a classic cover and going for a few more buckets of money.  

Edited August 9, 2019 by lou_fine

[Ricksneatstuff]

20 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

So, are you saying this was just a thrill bid on your part here, with the full expectation that another bidder would come in and toss a higher bid on the book?  

 No, I was walking away from my computer and decided to hit the disable bid button  but I overshot it and hit the cut bid button.   I was just watching the auction and watching that book but not planning on bidding on it. 

 So that was the only bid that I had on that book at all was that cut bid at 8250+ BP. 

[lou_fine]

33 minutes ago, Ricksneatstuff said:

 No, I was walking away from my computer and decided to hit the disable bid button  but I overshot it and hit the cut bid button.   I was just watching the auction and watching that book but not planning on bidding on it. 

 So that was the only bid that I had on that book at all was that cut bid at 8250+ BP. 

Yikes, that looks like a $9,900 overshot to me which is certainly nothing to sniff at.  

Maybe you could call Heritage and try to explain the situation to them and see if they could remedy the situation for you.  I imagine they would at the least consider waiving some of the fees associated with any subsequent resale you decide to do on the book.  If so, just hold onto the book for a couple of auctions and then put it back out in the hot spring and/or summer auction periods and you should hopefully be able to recoup your money, if not more on the book.