If Wolverine appeared in 2 panels of Hulk 180, then would it be his first appearance? 3 3

[valiantman]

On 11/2/2021 at 6:31 PM, kav said:

I'm going to argue that Wolverine hasnt appeared yet.  He hasn't  been in enough panels yet to qualify.

I disagree.  I think Wolverine has appeared in enough panels to qualify, but each book he appeared in for the past 47 years needs to be given "partial first appearance of Wolverine" in the description.  He'll be on his "partial second appearance" in comics printed from 2022 to 2068.  Then, in 2069, the label description should be "Wolverine '69. Nice."

Edited November 2, 2021 by valiantman

[Lazyboy]

On 11/1/2021 at 10:21 PM, Terry JSA said:

I think we have our answer! Roy Thomas says that Hulk #180 is in fact Wolverine’s 1st appearance. 

"Obviously it's #180 because he's in that last panel," Thomas tells ComicBook.com. Thomas co-created the character with Len Wein and John Romita. "It's just that the other is a full story and the one's a panel of it. But the first appearance is in #180, obviously."

This is not a revelation. This is not news. This changes nothing.

[kav]

On 11/2/2021 at 4:33 PM, sfcityduck said:

Except that Hulk 180 begins the spooling out of Wolverine's back story in four panels on page 3 of the comic (even naming him as Weapon X), and what happens in the two panels on the last page is a direct continuation of the spooling out of that story.  He doesn't come out of nowhere in that final panel.  Of course, Hulk 181 continues the spooling out of Wolverine's story, and you cannot fully understand that story unless you have read Hulk 180.  

yup

[kav]

The Leader's brother?  

[Lazyboy]

On 11/1/2021 at 11:08 PM, Terry JSA said:

Todd McFarlane said that ASM #299 is Venom’s 1st appearance

Well, that's just blatantly incorrect.

[Terry JSA]

On 11/2/2021 at 7:34 PM, Lazyboy said:

This is not a revelation. This is not news. This changes nothing.

I know it changes nothing but it’s interesting to know what Roy Thomas thought since he  had a part in the creation of Wolverine. 

[kav]

On 11/2/2021 at 4:44 PM, Terry JSA said:

I know it changes nothing but it’s interesting to know what Roy Thomas thought since he  had a part in the creation of Wolverine. 

Guys who actually created and published the comics: "180 is the first appearance"
Fanboys: "NOPE!"

[Terry JSA]

On 11/2/2021 at 7:43 PM, Lazyboy said:

Well, that's just blatantly incorrect.

Let me reiterate that sentence. While he didn’t exactly say that, he still said ASM #299 was considered Venom’s 1st appearance until different resources changed it to ASM #300. 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Terry JSA

[Lazyboy]

On 11/2/2021 at 6:48 PM, kav said:

Guys who actually created and published the comics: "180 is the first appearance"
Fanboys: "NOPE!" "You're just repeating what we already know."

Fixed.

[Randall Ries]

On 11/2/2021 at 7:33 PM, sfcityduck said:

Except that Hulk 180 begins the spooling out of Wolverine's back story in four panels on page 3 of the comic (even naming him as Weapon X), and what happens in the two panels on the last page is a direct continuation of the spooling out of that story.  He doesn't come out of nowhere in that final panel.  Of course, Hulk 181 continues the spooling out of Wolverine's story, and you cannot fully understand that story unless you have read Hulk 180.  

You said spooling.

[Randall Ries]

 

[Randall Ries]

On 11/2/2021 at 7:37 PM, kav said:

The Leader's brother?  

Haha. That's what I thought.