Raze Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 What causes you to walk away from buying comics? Are you and the dealer off on money or trade value? I’ve only traded two times with a dealer, once at a shop and once at C2E2. Both were great experiences and had no problems. Matter-of-fact the dealer that I traded with was our own @Dale Roberts he was awesome to work with! Do you get a bad vibe from the seller? I had this happen to me at C2E2 two years ago and I walked away. Are you not able to “flip” the book(s) to pay for the rest of the purchase? I know people frown on “flippers” but if you can buy a few books and sell some to keep 1 or more books, I dont see that as bad. Do you overthink your offer for a few days/weeks? This is my current problem! Ive had 3 weeks to sit and ponder it. I made an offer and Im waiting on a response since they are consignment books in a LCS. But I think my offer is actually too high compared to fair market value and actually regret making the offer. If the offer is excepted should I feel obligated to buy the books or should I still have the power to walk away? And if you walk how often do you regret it? Have you went back? I know we all probably have stories on this one. I did this (again) two years ago at C2E2 and again a few weeks ago at a small show. I was looking at a dealers books there was a book that I always wanted I looked at the price and I thought that it might be in line with the current market so I didn’t even look it up and walked away. I went back to the same dealer with a friend of mine and I pointed the book out to him he looked at the book and prices and it was grossly under priced. Last sold of that book in grade was $400 + he got it for $120. Are there any other factors that I might be missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlowUpTheMoon Posted October 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Raze said: If the offer is excepted should I feel obligated to buy the books Yes. Larryw7, Raze, Deadpoolica and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Yes. This But, if you’ve been waiting 3 weeks to hear back and want out of the deal....contact the LCS and rescind your offer. How long are you expected to wait? Edited October 31, 2020 by THE_BEYONDER Talapas1, Raze, Iconic1s and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bookery Posted October 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, Raze said: Do you overthink your offer for a few days/weeks? This is my current problem! Ive had 3 weeks to sit and ponder it. I made an offer and Im waiting on a response since they are consignment books in a LCS. But I think my offer is actually too high compared to fair market value and actually regret making the offer. If the offer is excepted should I feel obligated to buy the books or should I still have the power to walk away? I may be mis-reading this... but if they are taking 3 weeks to get back to you, then no, I wouldn't still feel obligated. Consignment or no, they should be able to give you an answer in a couple of days. This is one (of many ) reasons I won't take in consignments. jimjum12, Raze, Talapas1 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bird Posted October 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2020 it is always best to clearly communicate...if you have changed your mind let them know. Something like "since it has been a while and I have not heard back from you I have decided to go in another direction. Thank you and blah blah blah". Talapas1, THE_BEYONDER, Readcomix and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artboy99 Posted October 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2020 The LCS should have just told you the books were consignment and the price is the price. Haggling on books you do not own is not an easy thing to do. Weeks means the offer was not accepted. I walk away from deals all the time as the buyer: -the grade doesn't match what I see -the price is to high -I don't want everything in the lot -The seller isn't pleasant to deal with As a seller I walk away often as well: -the buyer expects a deal so they can flip it. I know what it is worth, why do I have to sell it to you at a discount? -the offer is a lowball -the buyer asked you to hold the book and they went to the ATM to get the money, then when they return (sometimes hours later or even the next day) they offer you less than the sticker. If you asked me to hold it you are buying it for the price on it unless we negotiated!!! There are lots of reasons to walk away from a deal. Readcomix, Larryw7, aardvark88 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 May walk away due to mold, rusty staples, cat p , rat krap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raze Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) I can see how people miss read that as I wrote the post incorrectly. Here’s clarification I have been thinking about the books for three weeks (I did not make an offer) this week I made an offer it has only been two days but the shop is an hour away from my house and I was going there today. Sorry for not posting this more clearly. The shop had easy access to the seller, that was not an issue. I think I am getting cold feet because of 3 things 1) over analyzing my offer and sitting and stewing on the books 2) last sold prices and what’s currently (only 4 between the 2 books on ebay) available are all over the place. And they are low grade books 1.5-1.8 that im looking at ( only 1 of the books is in same grade on eaby but the ask $550 but last sold was $290 in better condition) they are PCH thats my second focus on my collection, EC being first. 3) Most importantly this would be the second biggest buy that I have done. Edited October 31, 2020 by Raze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Raze said: What causes you to walk away from buying comics? Are you and the dealer off on money or trade value? I’ve only traded two times with a dealer, once at a shop and once at C2E2. Both were great experiences and had no problems. Matter-of-fact the dealer that I traded with was our own @Dale Roberts he was awesome to work with! Do you get a bad vibe from the seller? I had this happen to me at C2E2 two years ago and I walked away. Are you not able to “flip” the book(s) to pay for the rest of the purchase? I know people frown on “flippers” but if you can buy a few books and sell some to keep 1 or more books, I dont see that as bad. Do you overthink your offer for a few days/weeks? This is my current problem! Ive had 3 weeks to sit and ponder it. I made an offer and Im waiting on a response since they are consignment books in a LCS. But I think my offer is actually too high compared to fair market value and actually regret making the offer. If the offer is excepted should I feel obligated to buy the books or should I still have the power to walk away? And if you walk how often do you regret it? Have you went back? I know we all probably have stories on this one. I did this (again) two years ago at C2E2 and again a few weeks ago at a small show. I was looking at a dealers books there was a book that I always wanted I looked at the price and I thought that it might be in line with the current market so I didn’t even look it up and walked away. I went back to the same dealer with a friend of mine and I pointed the book out to him he looked at the book and prices and it was grossly under priced. Last sold of that book in grade was $400 + he got it for $120. Are there any other factors that I might be missing? I've done many trades, both with dealers and even here on the boards. My approach is always to trade for the fun of it, while trying to get in the ballpark of fair value going both ways. Once one party starts blatantly overvaluing their stuff or getting into exact equivalent prices of things then I walk. Raze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If you made an offer two days ago, and it is accepted you should follow through on it. Raze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Raze said: I can see how people miss read that as I wrote the post incorrectly. Here’s clarification I have been thinking about the books for three weeks (I did not make an offer) this week I made an offer it has only been two days but the shop is an hour away from my house and I was going there today. Sorry for not posting this more clearly. The shop had easy access to the seller, that was not an issue. I think I am getting cold feet because of 3 things 1) over analyzing my offer and sitting and stewing on the books 2) last sold prices and what’s currently (only 4 between the 2 books on ebay) available are all over the place. And they are low grade books 1.5-1.8 that im looking at ( only 1 of the books is in same grade on eaby but the ask $550 but last sold was $290 in better condition) they are PCH thats my second focus on my collection, EC being first. 3) Most importantly this would be the second biggest buy that I have done. Appreciate the clarification. I think at this point you have to wait a few days. Maybe they come back with a counter, and you can then pass. Raze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Yeah, I originally thought that it had been three weeks since you made the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I think its ok to pull your offer prior to getting a response; if so do it as quickly as possible. But its not ok to pull it and lower your offer; not worth the relationship to see how it plays out. Just walk from these at that point. (Only revisit if they sit forever, especially if they come back to you. And then fully explain why you pulled and walked -- you got excited, offered too much, etc but did not want to offend them with a lower offer immediately after pulling your initial one, etc....If they are in fact overpriced and this happens to play out that they sit for this reason, hopefully they will appreciate how you approached them at the time that they thought the higher price was the right price.) But if they accept before you get a chance to pull your offer, you should honor your offer, IMO. Raze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptilekingdie Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I have a good one, years ago when the Phoenix show was being held in Mesa, I was at a dealer booth and getting ready to negotiate for some books. The dealer looked at the books and actually raised the prices, I walked away. The dealer was......guess. Artboy99, Raze and littledoom 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robot Man Posted October 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2020 I believe in a quick, easy and fair deal. I don’t agonize over it. It’s either fair or not. I can figure it out pretty quickly. If I don’t like the deal, I walk. There are always more deals just down the road. Raze, Fan Boy, Readcomix and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledoom Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If I don’t need it or like it I walk. If I may never see it again I jump on the opportunity. when you’e in your old age you might not regret passing on a $5 priced comic that was worth $30 but you may regret passing on a $200 priced comic worth $20,000. Something like that. Raze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FineCollector Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I think the past sale of $290 is making the OP overthink this. Yes, someone got it for $290, but if all the other copies available are more expensive, then $290 is just shoulda-coulda-woulda, and no longer relevant. Readcomix and Raze 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledoom Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Raze said: Do you overthink your offer for a few days/weeks? This is my current problem! Ive had 3 weeks to sit and ponder it. I made an offer and Im waiting on a response since they are consignment books in a LCS. But I think my offer is actually too high compared to fair market value and actually regret making the offer. If the offer is excepted should I feel obligated to buy the books or should I still have the power to walk away? You’re problem is not a comic problem. You’re definitely thinking too much. you should not feel obligating in this situation. The LCS is a business and they have probably been in these type of scenarios before. Target doesn’t get mad when a customer puts the toothpaste back on the shelf. Your LCS may however be mad if you took out a big stack or pile of comics and don’t put them back in the correct places if you don’t purchase any Raze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Raze said: If the offer is excepted should I feel obligated to buy the books or should I still have the power to walk away? Raze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, littledoom said: If I don’t need it or like it I walk. If I may never see it again I jump on the opportunity. when you’e in your old age you might not regret passing on a $5 priced comic that was worth $30 but you may regret passing on a $200 priced comic worth $20,000. Something like that. Why would you pass on either of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...