Ebay offensive material policy - Just the beginning of censorship, already happening? Whats the scoop? 3 3

[jcjames]

14 minutes ago, Bird said:

cancel culture is certainly more widespread now but my point all along has been that young people's popular music has most always sickened and offended many older adults. Yes it is more graphic today but so is everything else (sex, violence, fringe behaviors). But the underlying friction has always been there, and likely always will 'cause they are just young whippersnappers after all

 

Yes it is, a lot more, and it's all pointed one way.

 

[THE_BEYONDER]

1 minute ago, Hollywood1892 said:

You think Trent or Johnny Cash did a better version of 'Hurt'?

Cash for the win 

[Ryan.]

Just now, Hollywood1892 said:

You think Trent or Johnny Cash did a better version of 'Hurt'?

I'll take the Trent version but I do celebrate that entire cover album Cash did. 

[porcupine48]

2 minutes ago, Ryan. said:

In high school I worshipped at the temple of Trent Reznor, with a healthy dose of Deicide and Cannibal Corpse. Today I mostly listen to hip hop, though I catch Nine Inch Nails when they tour every few years. I can confirm that Cardi B did not, in fact, invent edgy lyrics. 

 

 

Bewbs. 

Have you seen the news about C.Corpses gutarist  ?

Didja keep any old tapes or lps?I'd be interested if so.Not NIN,still have my og presses,but the death metal 

And Cash's Hirt I think hurt a lot of fans to the point of nonooooomooooore.It's good,but...

[porcupine48]

2 minutes ago, Ryan. said:

I'll take the Trent version but I do celebrate that entire cover album Cash did. 

All the American Recordings are worth listening.I think there's a few?

[Hollywood1892]

18 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

Cash for the win 

Definitely 

He sounds so broken singing it

[Prince Namor]

5 hours ago, jcjames said:

This song won top multiple awards (American Music and People's Choice awards) and critical acclaim for its "sex-positive feminism" last year. "Sex-Positive Feminism" is a growing and widely popular (as evidenced by this multi-award winning "song") social movement to progress feminism to embrace and support the pornographic portrayal of women. Yes, that's exactly it's purpose - to oppose those feminists who viewed pornography as demeaning to and objectifying of women.

There is no bottom to the gutter that American culture (especially urban culture) is swirling down into at an accelerating pace.

I grew up listening to Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson, Commodores, Manhattans, Diana Ross, Al Green and so many others. Motown was in high rotation in my house as a kid. What kids are filling their heads with today is pure toxic soul-killing poison. 

50+ years ago they said the same things about the Beatles, the Stones, the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, etc....

Edited March 5, 2021 by Prince Namor

[porcupine48]

15 minutes ago, Prince Namor said:

50+ years ago they said the same things about the Beatles, the Stones, the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, etc....

And ten years later we were watching this...

Things have went from suggestive to blatant.

Parents just have to try and monitor what the kids are listening to,watching.

And handing out spankings

[speedcake]

3 hours ago, William-James88 said:

Is there the same uproar for wanting Songs of the South to be added to Disney Plus?

There is a significant and fundamental difference between the publisher of the Seuss books phasing out certain volumes (putting aside the reasons good or bad), and the prohibition of trading or collecting those works between private individuals. Yes Ebay is a private company and can do whatever they like, ban whatever items they want for whatever reasons they want, but as a society we should hope they'd have very good reason to want to interfere with what private individuals collect.  All kinds of is traded on eBay, you can make subjective arguments all day long about a very wide variety of items for sale on their platform. 

The argument that buying or selling copies of the Seuss books in question is perpetuating racism or bigotry itself is incredibly thin. The argument that people shouldn't be allowed to trade those books between themselves is completely unsupportable.

Yes, you can buy the books elsewhere for now. But that is beside the point.

[grebal]

51 minutes ago, Prince Namor said:

6 hours ago, jcjames said:

This song won top multiple awards (American Music and People's Choice awards) and critical acclaim for its "sex-positive feminism" last year. "Sex-Positive Feminism" is a growing and widely popular (as evidenced by this multi-award winning "song") social movement to progress feminism to embrace and support the pornographic portrayal of women. Yes, that's exactly it's purpose - to oppose those feminists who viewed pornography as demeaning to and objectifying of women.

There is no bottom to the gutter that American culture (especially urban culture) is swirling down into at an accelerating pace.

I grew up listening to Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson, Commodores, Manhattans, Diana Ross, Al Green and so many others. Motown was in high rotation in my house as a kid. What kids are filling their heads with today is pure toxic soul-killing poison. 

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50+ years ago they said the same things about the Beatles, the Stones, the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, etc....

Notice that jcjames never suggested to ban something.  There's a universe of difference between expressing disapproval of something, and demanding or justifying the prohibition (ie ban) of something about which someone disapproves.

[Ryan.]

1 hour ago, porcupine48 said:

Have you seen the news about C.Corpses gutarist  ?

Didja keep any old tapes or lps?I'd be interested if so.Not NIN,still have my og presses,but the death metal 

And Cash's Hirt I think hurt a lot of fans to the point of nonooooomooooore.It's good,but...

What's going on with the guitarist? 

No old tapes or LPs here. I listen to everything digitally now cause I'm lazy. 

[Ryan.]

1 hour ago, porcupine48 said:

All the American Recordings are worth listening.I think there's a few?

His cover of I Hung My Head. Outstanding. 

[snitzer]

Crazy how many Washington *insert word here* football items are on eBay (33k). Should we cancel all of those items? 🧐

[James J Johnson]

12 minutes ago, snitzer said:

Crazy how many Washington *insert word here* football items are on eBay (33k). Should we cancel all of those items? 🧐

 

I think the days of professional sports are numbered. Whether male or female athletes take part, isn't aggression towards something; a ball, a hoop, a wave, a net, a pin, a weight, an opponent, etc., a major act for the majority of organized, professional sports? How much longer will all that pent up aggressively toxic masculinity and femininity be allowed to ensue unabated? 

[Ken Aldred]

2 hours ago, Hollywood1892 said:

Ice T sings ironically 

Decades since I've listened to Body Count. Didn't think a great deal of it even at the time.

I recall their song "There Goes the Neighborhood" being somewhat racist, or, was that irony?

[snitzer]

The guy from Breakin’? 

[Hollywood1892]

28 minutes ago, Ken Aldred said:

Decades since I've listened to Body Count. Didn't think a great deal of it even at the time.

I recall their song "There Goes the Neighborhood" being somewhat racist, or, was that irony?

That is quite ironic!

I'm referring to some of the roles he takes on television 

[Bird]

2 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said:

That is quite ironic!

I'm referring to some of the roles he takes on television 

CoCo is high maintainence.

[Ken Aldred]

7 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said:

That is quite ironic!

I'm referring to some of the roles he takes on television 

Fin Tutuola?

Law and Order SVU

Edited March 6, 2021 by Ken Aldred

[Bird]

1 hour ago, grebal said:

Notice that jcjames never suggested to ban something.  There's a universe of difference between expressing disapproval of something, and demanding or justifying the prohibition (ie ban) of something about which someone disapproves.

I don't think anything has been "banned", certainly not the Seuss books. Disapproval is not cause for restriction of material, but harm is. And I think that there is a disagreement about the "harm" some items can cause. As someone said earlier (sorry, forget who it was) there tends to be an overcorrection when these things happen and then the pendulum swings the other way. Trying to understand what is going on and taking different perspectives is not the same as agreeing with everything that is happening.

Every voice is amplified in our current reality with all the outlets for expression. Life was a lot raunchier and permissive when I was a kid in the 1970s (no one who was never in NYC in the 1970s would believe it; Times Square, 42nd street, oh my gosh! I I was about 7 when we crossed through the tunnel and as soon as we were in the city the prostitutes descended on the family car and one lifted up her skirt and pressed her flesh against my window, and that is only one memory!); was it better? In many ways yes but in many ways no, and I think it is progress to concern ourselves with the impact we may have on others and not just stomp out dissention as was done in the past. That was TRUE cancel culture. Very few things that have been called cancelled are really gone...I can only think of two people myself (careers over mostly) but I am sure others would point out more.

Edited March 6, 2021 by Bird