sfcityduck Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Randall Dowling said: Is there a reason why anyone should assume these books haven't been "maximized" already? They sure seem that way to me. Those are flat flat flat books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Moondog said: When Ed was telling me about the collection you could feel the excitement in his voice. I've known Ed since 1992. He's seen everything - yet this time it was different when he was describing it to me. The difference, I hope, is volume. I'm happy to let folks battle over the "keys" and the trendy books. I'll be seeking the books that are a bit more off the beaten path. The kind the speculators, "key" pursuers, attention seekers, and trend followers are likely to overlook. With 5,000 books (if true), I'm pretty sure more than a few will escape the clutches of the usual suspects. Gatsby77 and SOTIcollector 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sfcityduck Posted April 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) CCS work was probably done because it appears the cover was rotated a bit towards the back. Staples have moved and there's less cover on the "after" picture. CCS doesn't bother me one iota. But, I've had some great looking GA books get 9.4 and 9.6 at Heritage, with equally rich colors and white pages, and they were superior to this because of the much nicer corners and staple areas. Irrational exuberance may be at play a bit. Before: After: Edited April 28, 2021 by sfcityduck PedigreeMan, Larryw7, drbanner and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, sfcityduck said: CCS work was probably done because it appears the cover was rotated a bit towards the back. Staples have moved and there's less cover on the "after" picture. CCS doesn't bother me one iota. But, I've had some great GA books get 9.4 and 9.6 at Heritage, with equally rich colors and white pages, and they were superior than this because of the much nicer corners and staple areas. Irrational exuberance may be at play a bit. Before: After: These are still very pretty books. I think it's probably just common sense that nobody (especially not Heritage) is leaving money on the table. I think most people would rightfully expect that they did everything within market accepted parameters to get the highest prices for books. I personally wish the contorting of books would stop as I prefer them not (except in certain extreme cases). But as long as the market rewards it and the dollars are big enough, such things will be the norm. PopKulture, tth2 and buttock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopKulture Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Moondog said: It's the coolest thing I've seen since September 16, 1978 when the Windy City collection walked into my shop on the first day I was open. The first day?!! Wow... Moondog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmat Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Moondog said: When Ed was telling me about the collection you could feel the excitement in his voice. I've known Ed since 1992. He's seen everything - yet this time it was different when he was describing it to me. Who discovered the collection? Or it was brought to light by the OO family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 19 hours ago, october said: Seeing this is giving me dreams of a 9.2 or better #7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entalmighty1 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 11 hours ago, october said: The Catmans are highly suspect in particular. Money better spent on 1/1 superfractor patch auto basketball cards printed 8 hours ago. The Catman 32 looks like it would be of better use in a fireplace, to be completely honest. I'll bid on it, just so Heritage has something to give the poor consignor of that particular atrocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, entalmighty1 said: The Catman 32 looks like it would be of better use in a fireplace, to be completely honest. I'll bid on it, just so Heritage has something to give the poor consignor of that particular atrocity. You're probably allergic to cats. I'll make the sacrifice. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Larryw7, Randall Dowling and Jayman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, adamstrange said: CCS’s signature Larryw7, PedigreeMan, onlyweaknesskryptonite and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I've never understood why writing on the cover is not considered a more prominent defect. How can a book with writing grade at 9.6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post adamstrange Posted April 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sarg said: I've never understood why writing on the cover is not considered a more prominent defect. How can a book with writing grade at 9.6? Distributor marks have generally been considered a minor defect for GA comics going back decades. They are the primary method for confirming many pedigrees and are often prized rather than reviled by high end GA collectors. Jayman, tth2, Spyder! and 7 others 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, adamstrange said: Distributor marks have generally been considered a minor defect for GA comics going back decades. They are the primary method for confirming many pedigrees and are often prized rather than reviled by high end GA collectors. I love books that say “Larson” or a nicely placed “Tom Reilly” stamp on the back cover. Larryw7 and Readcomix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, adamstrange said: Distributor marks have generally been considered a minor defect for GA comics going back decades. They are the primary method for confirming many pedigrees and are often prized rather than reviled by high end GA collectors. RC grease pencil is occasionally revile-worthy. Randall Dowling and PedigreeMan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, october said: RC grease pencil is occasionally revile-worthy. Just to be safe, you should probably stay away from any of those nasty distributor marks. Why take chances. batman_fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sfcityduck Posted April 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, adamstrange said: Distributor marks have generally been considered a minor defect for GA comics going back decades. They are the primary method for confirming many pedigrees and are often prized rather than reviled by high end GA collectors. I'll take a well placed stamp showing when the book hit the stands any day. vheflin, BuscemasAvengers, october and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, adamstrange said: Just to be safe, you should probably stay away from any of those nasty distributor marks. Why take chances. Staying away is a forgone conclusion sadly. I need my kidneys. ThothAmon and Randall Dowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 59 minutes ago, Sarg said: I've never understood why writing on the cover is not considered a more prominent defect. How can a book with writing grade at 9.6? Years ago there was a bit more of a debate. For example some dealers would mark down distributor marks on the Church copies to around 9.2 when it was otherwise more like a 9.6. As time progressed and the value between a 9.2 and a 9.6 because greater, it seemed kind of a shame to lower the grade for markings that were both part of the distribution process and identification marks to distinguish the pedigree. Furthermore, because these marks were used to distinguish the pedigree, books with the marks often became more desirable. Now, October is talking about the River City collection, (Brain Peets /A-1 comics has a great video online opening a box filled with lower grade termite ridden raw copies). This was pedigree found close to my location with Grease Pencil markings. Sometimes writing with Grease Pencil can be a bit obtrusive. Sarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 22 hours ago, october said: I've only been paying attention to stuff like this for a decade or so. Be less old, old-timer. Damn know-nothing newbie! ThothAmon and october 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...