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[Icctrombone]

Hello everyone, I new to the forum and Have a stupid question. Is it the sellers responsibility to do the research to see if someone that has won a bid is on the Hall of shame or probation List? It seems to be a lot of names to check through. Is there a short cut? Thank you in advance. 

[comicdonna]

The lists consists of both buyers and sellers, and it is there for the benefit of both sides.  Those lists are a short cut.  For each person on it, there are many posts that aided in putting them there.  

[KCOComics]

This is the updated list. Just go to the last page and you'll find the most recent HOS and PL. 

No need to scroll through old threads or anything. 

After some time, you'll get familiar with allot of the frequent shoppers.  Until then, it's nice to be able to reference the list. 

 

 

[JollyComics]

I have noticed more books were sold by anonymous buyer(s) via PM in last few weeks. Even the sellers knew those members who are on the probation and hall of shame.

Do the sellers break the rules?

 

[jimjum12]

You're still allowed to sell or buy from those individuals, the Probation List simply exists as a strong warning against it. Some of those folks can create new ID's and sneak past the check points. GOD BLESS...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[skypinkblu]

On 7/13/2021 at 8:44 AM, JollyComics said:

I have noticed more books were sold by anonymous buyer(s) via PM in last few weeks. Even the sellers knew those members who are on the probation and hall of shame.

Do the sellers break the rules?

 

I buy as an anonymous buyer often. I've never been on the probation list. I just prefer to be private sometimes. I don't always call my friends and tell them what I just bought at the store, either. 

I sold a few books to an anonymous buyer last week. They have not been on the probation list. I guess they just like to be private, I never ask.

So it's not always probation people buying. 

 

[Paul © ® ™ 💙 ⚽️]

7 minutes ago, skypinkblu said:

On 7/13/2021 at 1:44 PM, JollyComics said:

I have noticed more books were sold by anonymous buyer(s) via PM in last few weeks. Even the sellers knew those members who are on the probation and hall of shame.

Do the sellers break the rules?

 

I sold a few books to an anonymous buyer last week. They have not been on the probation list. I guess they just like to be private, I never ask.

So it's not always probation people buying. 

This is something that had never occurred to me, however surely a seller has the right to sell to whoever they want?

The PL and the HOS I've always thought are there in an advisory capacity only, ergo it is 'seller beware' but not forbidden, because it's a matter of choice surely?

[Paul © ® ™ 💙 ⚽️]

7 minutes ago, skypinkblu said:

I don't always call my friends and tell them what I just bought at the store, either. 

[skypinkblu]

Just to be clear, I don't sell to people on the probation list. At least I have not done so knowingly. I don't buy from them, either.

[JollyComics]

1 hour ago, G G ® ™ said:

This is something that had never occurred to me, however surely a seller has the right to sell to whoever they want?

The PL and the HOS I've always thought are there in an advisory capacity only, ergo it is 'seller beware' but not forbidden, because it's a matter of choice surely?

Only once. I got a PM from the buyer who is on the list. I told him about it then he didn't reply me ever since.

Just a thought.

Edited July 16, 2021 by JollyComics

[pemart1966]

On 7/12/2021 at 6:50 AM, Icctrombone said:

Hello everyone, I new to the forum and Have a stupid question. Is it the sellers responsibility to do the research to see if someone that has won a bid is on the Hall of shame or probation List? It seems to be a lot of names to check through. Is there a short cut? Thank you in advance. 

The probation list is right there in alphabetical order and the Hall of Shame list is not that long.  It takes 30 seconds to search it.  

Buyers/sellers are not necessarily going to volunteer that they're deadbeats so yeah, it's your responsibility either way.

Transacting here and anywhere is the same as it is in boxing - "protect yourself at all times".

Edited August 10, 2021 by pemart1966

[Sam T]

On 7/13/2021 at 8:44 AM, JollyComics said:

I have noticed more books were sold by anonymous buyer(s) via PM in last few weeks. Even the sellers knew those members who are on the probation and hall of shame.

Do the sellers break the rules?

 

That sounds like folks faking reputational gains to eventually rip off someone else.

A person can just register two accounts, fake a bunch of sales between them and then use the recommendations.

 

This board really can't function the way it used to function if it continues to allow automated account generation and activity. CGC could have the only bot-proof forum...

[JollyComics]

On 9/7/2021 at 5:27 PM, Sam T said:

That sounds like folks faking reputational gains to eventually rip off someone else.

A person can just register two accounts, fake a bunch of sales between them and then use the recommendations.

 

This board really can't function the way it used to function if it continues to allow automated account generation and activity. CGC could have the only bot-proof forum...

eBay can allow them to do that but I don't think here can allow a boardie to create two different accounts.  The new boardies are checked before entering the chat board. You can contact Mods about this.

[Sam T]

On 9/7/2021 at 9:21 PM, JollyComics said:

The new boardies are checked before entering the chat board.

Sorry but that's not really technically feasible. VPNs exist.

 

I've been a collector my whole life. But I've also been a techie. It seems like this community doesn't understand how tech actually works and just sorta repeats marketing stuff. Seriously, look at the forums. Membership and post counts are growing but post quality is dropping and everyone just says "yaaaa got too popular so the dummies moved in". Nope those are fake accounts. They invade a community and if people don't actually address it, they take it over.

[comicdonna]

On 9/8/2021 at 3:27 PM, Sam T said:

Sorry but that's not really technically feasible. VPNs exist.

 

I've been a collector my whole life. But I've also been a techie. It seems like this community doesn't understand how tech actually works and just sorta repeats marketing stuff. Seriously, look at the forums. Membership and post counts are growing but post quality is dropping and everyone just says "yaaaa got too popular so the dummies moved in". Nope those are fake accounts. They invade a community and if people don't actually address it, they take it over.

There are very few fake accounts on this forum.  With the exception of Stu, it is possible there are no fake accounts.