JazzMan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I know nothing about the Peacemaker that'll make his debut in the upcoming The Suicide Squad movie so I decided to look him up. I was shocked to see that he was originally a Charlton character who first appeared in Fightin' Five #40 in 1966. I guess it was later acquired by DC. Is this the biggest Charlton key? Haupia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post s-man Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 He's so old he should change his name to Pacemaker! Haupia, BlowUpTheMoon, 1950's war comics and 12 others 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vheflin Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 7:41 PM, s-man said: He's so old he should change his name to Pacemaker! Browns81, djzombi, kav and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 7:33 PM, JazzMan said: I know nothing about the Peacemaker that'll make his debut in the upcoming The Suicide Squad movie so I decided to look him up. I was shocked to see that he was originally a Charlton character who first appeared in Fightin' Five #40 in 1966. I guess it was later acquired by DC. Is this the biggest Charlton key? biggest and only Charlton key FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave2739 Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 The Question, Caption Atom, Ted Kord Blue Beetle were all originally Charlton characters acquired by DC. The Watchmen characters are all famously analogs of the Charlton characters that DC acquired. thunsicker, Randall Dowling, Haupia and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djzombi Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Blue Beetle #1 is probably the biggest Charlton key, but what do I know. littledoom and Cat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 4:41 PM, s-man said: He's so old he should change his name to Pacemaker! He's so old, when he went to the museum, the mummies took pictures of him and said DAYUM. musicmeta and Dave2739 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Who? Can't see him. Spoiler da da-da daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....... da da-da daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze_rules Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 5:05 PM, 1950's war comics said: biggest and only Charlton key HotKey and namisgr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 6:58 PM, bronze_rules said: Nothing says 'tough guy' like a blond pony tail. Namtak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-man Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:30 PM, kav said: He's so old, when he went to the museum, the mummies took pictures of him and said DAYUM. He's so old, Wyatt Earp used him at the OK Corral kav and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 7:02 PM, s-man said: He's so old, Wyatt Earp used him at the OK Corral He's so old his last name is "osaurus". oldmilwaukee6er and s-man 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post awakeintheashes Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 10:06 PM, kav said: He's so old his last name is "osaurus". He’s so old, his CGC submissions just got marked “finalized, imaged, shipped.” Off Panel, KEY ISSUES Comics, Cat and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 7:21 PM, awakeintheashes said: He’s so old, his CGC submissions just got marked “finalized, imaged, shipped.” OUCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 He's so old when God said let there be light he jumped and said "how'd you get in here?!" awakeintheashes, 1950's war comics and musicmeta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzMan Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 5:25 PM, Dave2739 said: The Question, Caption Atom, Ted Kord Blue Beetle were all originally Charlton characters acquired by DC. The Watchmen characters are all famously analogs of the Charlton characters that DC acquired. So did Charlton acquire the Blue Beetle from Fox and then it was acquired by DC? BB dates back to 1939 or so, if I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 11:35 PM, JazzMan said: So did Charlton acquire the Blue Beetle from Fox and then it was acquired by DC? BB dates back to 1939 or so, if I recall. Correct. The original original Blue Beetle was a Fox Feature Syndicate character that debuted in Mystery Men Comics #1 (1939). It was created as an expy of Green Hornet (pretty much all Fox characters were at least semi-plagiarized from better publishers' works). When Fox started having significant financial problems and entered bankruptcy (the first time,) Blue Beetle (along with most of Fox's assets) wound up in the hands of Holyoke Publishing in what is now largely thought to be accounting shenanigans on the part of Victor Fox. Two years later, Fox would get their properties back from Holyoke, but the increasing push to "clean up" the comics industry landscape hit Fox really hard. Also, Victor Fox's shady financial constructions were eventually called due. Fox went bankrupt, again, in 1950, this time for good. I'm not sure exactly where the Blue Beetle property went in the immediate aftermath. Fox material was broken up among a bunch of companies. Many of those (Ajax, for example), were run by Robert Farrell, a friend and business partner of Victor Fox, and may have been an attempt to replay the Holyoke shuffle, had Fox re-recovered from bankruptcy. Charlton bought out pretty much all those successor companies (whatever intermediary might have briefly owned the character didn't publish him in anything). Charlton dropped its "Action Heroes" in 1968 to focus on licensed properties, and eventually sold the entire lineup to DC in 1983, including the Blue Beetle. djzombi, BlowUpTheMoon and Bookery 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Peacemaker, Blue Beetle, Green Hornet... I'll just stick with my Green Llama pulps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronext Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Nobody cared about this book 2 years ago. Nobody. It was barely worth grading even in high grades. I had 2 copies because I was collecting the Charlton Watchmen analogues, including a 9.0 that was about $100. Overnight, it's a huge key because John Cena wants to play him? I think we should let the book gestate a bit more. I'm also a big Pat Boyette fan. I suggest reading his bio for those who aren't familiar with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave2739 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 1:40 AM, Qalyar said: Correct. The original original Blue Beetle was a Fox Feature Syndicate character that debuted in Mystery Men Comics #1 (1939). It was created as an expy of Green Hornet (pretty much all Fox characters were at least semi-plagiarized from better publishers' works). When Fox started having significant financial problems and entered bankruptcy (the first time,) Blue Beetle (along with most of Fox's assets) wound up in the hands of Holyoke Publishing in what is now largely thought to be accounting shenanigans on the part of Victor Fox. Two years later, Fox would get their properties back from Holyoke, but the increasing push to "clean up" the comics industry landscape hit Fox really hard. Also, Victor Fox's shady financial constructions were eventually called due. Fox went bankrupt, again, in 1950, this time for good. I'm not sure exactly where the Blue Beetle property went in the immediate aftermath. Fox material was broken up among a bunch of companies. Many of those (Ajax, for example), were run by Robert Farrell, a friend and business partner of Victor Fox, and may have been an attempt to replay the Holyoke shuffle, had Fox re-recovered from bankruptcy. Charlton bought out pretty much all those successor companies (whatever intermediary might have briefly owned the character didn't publish him in anything). Charlton dropped its "Action Heroes" in 1968 to focus on licensed properties, and eventually sold the entire lineup to DC in 1983, including the Blue Beetle. Thanks for elaborating. This is also why I specified "Ted Kord Blue Beetle" as opposed to the GA Blue Beetle, Dan Garrett in my earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
