Did Nuke and pills insprie Matrix movie? 1 1

[JollyComics]

I never thought about the pills until I re-read Daredevil #232 - 1st appearance of Nuke.  It was published in 1986 so Matrix was not made until 1999.

No one ever mentioned about the pills not even Frank Miller who wrote it.  Marvel Comics said nothing.

You can see here.....

Now Matrix...

What is your thought?   Did Matrix writer take the idea of Red/Blue pills from Nuke's pills?

Edited October 3, 2021 by JollyComics

[Ken Aldred]

Probably not.

The Super-Soldier Serum variant used on him induced psychosis, so he’s being controlled with medication drugs coated in American flag colours, also playing into his obsessive patriotism.

There’s a degree of interpretation of reality there, but not close enough in nature to that played out in The Matrix.

Edited October 3, 2021 by Ken Aldred

[dupont2005]

I’ve seen a Bandes Dessinee with the matrix pod right down to all the tubes and the feeding tube thing but it was on a space ship for suspended animation, but there is no way the movie independently came up with the same exact thing down to the tiniest detail. I think the Wachowakis were comic fans so I don’t doubt any number of inspirations from comics

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

[oldmilwaukee6er]

Nothing whatever to do with Alice's Adventures in Wonderland or Through the Looking Glass, which is directly referenced by the movie. Or the subsequent pop culture of the reference such as Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit. 

Edited October 3, 2021 by oldmilwaukee6er
Post edited by Wertham

[Ken Aldred]

On 10/3/2021 at 7:29 AM, dupont2005 said:

I’ve seen a Bandes Dessinee with the matrix pod right down to all the tubes and the feeding tube thing but it was on a space ship for suspended animation, but there is no way the movie independently came up with the same exact thing down to the tiniest detail. I think the Wachowakis were comic fans so I don’t doubt any number of inspirations from comics

I agree.  The idea could’ve been taken from Metal Hurlant / Heavy Metal or any number of European sources. 

[mycomicshop]

And The Invisibles

[WolverineX]

On 10/3/2021 at 2:07 PM, mycomicshop said:

And The Invisibles

Interesting... do the other matrix films borrow heavily from the series as well?

[James J Johnson]

On 10/3/2021 at 11:07 AM, mycomicshop said:

And The Invisibles

https://screenrant.com/matrix-red-blue-pill-morpheus-plato-cave-allegory/

[D2]

On 10/3/2021 at 2:07 PM, mycomicshop said:

And The Invisibles

Yeah the concept for sure but it sounded like Morrison was handsomely compensated, minus the prestige 

[JollyComics]

On 10/4/2021 at 8:43 AM, James J Johnson said:

https://screenrant.com/matrix-red-blue-pill-morpheus-plato-cave-allegory/

Fantastic concept and inspiration.  

[Ken Aldred]

Quite common to find conditions in which an individual is dissociated from the world and considers the possibility that there might be something artificial about it, such as with autism and psychosis, perceptions which can also be altered therapeutically with medication, that is, ‘pills’.  As a starting point this doesn’t really require anything based upon philosophy.  Give the transition between states of awareness a then fairly early tech, internet spin, and copy the basic idea used in Alex Proyas’ Dark City.

[SuperBird]

On 10/4/2021 at 10:05 AM, D2 said:

Yeah the concept for sure but it sounded like Morrison was handsomely compensated, minus the prestige 

Was he? I never heard that before. 

[Bird]

This thread is the least inspried thread I have read all day

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 10/5/2021 at 8:32 AM, Bird said:

This thread is the least inspried thread I have read all day

It is better if you took both pills right at the start.