MetalPSI Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 A lot more than 3 posters detract from having fun on this forum Nobody could ever deter me from collecting funny books though I do suppose that beating people over the head with the fact people have a PhD and are therefore entitled to dismiss any viewpoint that contradicts the narrative they wish to substabtiate, could be labeled in the same light People are people, and you can either tolerate it or not greggy, Lazyboy, jimjum12 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I'm going to extrapolate on this I think having a PhD, regardless in what discipline, is extremely commendable. While I don't revere people who have one, I do highly respect it. It shows that someone has given someone else their love and guidance, and a support structure to ensure that person has succeeded, most likely completely on their own, for their benefit I never had any such support structure and I envy it. I don't want anyone thinking I'm anti intellectual because I wasn't able to get a PhD of my own. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 10:52 AM, The Meta said: I'm going to extrapolate on this I think having a PhD, regardless in what discipline, is extremely commendable. While I don't revere people who have one, I do highly respect it. It shows that someone has given someone else their love and guidance, and a support structure to ensure that person has succeeded, most likely completely on their own, for their benefit I never had any such support structure and I envy it. I don't want anyone thinking I'm anti intellectual because I wasn't able to get a PhD of my own. envy would be strong, yet honest for some. I've taken to task things that i've learned, whether I learned them in "school" or not, such is life Still we're all just hopefully living in the moment of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 10:01 AM, ADAMANTIUM said: envy would be strong, yet honest for some. I've taken to task things that i've learned, whether I learned them in "school" or not, such is life Still we're all just hopefully living in the moment of fun. I am envious. I've only been able to achieve a trade, I really would have liked to have gone to university, but sometimes, life just doesn't work that way. I've given serious thought to furthering my education when I retire, so I have the time and funds to do so ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 11:04 AM, The Meta said: I am envious. I've only been able to achieve a trade, I really would have liked to have gone to university, but sometimes, life just doesn't work that way. I've given serious thought to furthering my education when I retire, so I have the time and funds to do so Amen and prayers. It's a hope MetalPSI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 11:04 AM, The Meta said: I am envious. I've only been able to achieve a trade, I really would have liked to have gone to university, but sometimes, life just doesn't work that way. I've given serious thought to furthering my education when I retire, so I have the time and funds to do so I think you would enjoy that. Just for as you say furthering your education. When I was in college I would see people in their 50s taking classes. I didn't understand why they were doing that. Now that I am in my late 40s/early 50s I understand. jimjum12, MetalPSI and ADAMANTIUM 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimjum12 Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 12:07 PM, fastballspecial said: I think you would enjoy that. Just for as you say furthering your education. When I was in college I would see people in their 50s taking classes. I didn't understand why they were doing that. Now that I am in my late 40s/early 50s I understand. Ann Landers once told a reader who had complained that after 8 years of Law School they would be 48, "After 8 years you'll be 48 anyway." Do it. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) THE_BEYONDER, MetalPSI , paqart and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 10:16 AM, jimjum12 said: Ann Landers once told a reader who had complained that after 8 years of Law School they would be 48, "After 8 years you'll be 48 anyway." Do it. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) I like that jimjum12 and ADAMANTIUM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FlyingDonut Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2022 What amuses me is that I have been beating the drum for newsstands for years and am openly and happily benefiting from the recent price spike in newsstand sales yet when I call out information that is clearly wrong both on its face and in practicality I'm shouted down. Do I believe Ultimate Fallout 4 newsstand is a scarce, very hard to find book? Absolutely, and it is worth every penny. Same with almost all newsstands in the post-2000 era. I believe the absolute number of them printed was probably 10% (or so) of the direct sale print run. Same with the exceptionally hard to find and high priced Thor God of Thunder 2 and 6, which are also worth diving for. That would make roughly 11,000 Ultimate Fallout 4s printed and roughly 5,000 Thor God of Thunder 6s printed. That's the number I'm talking about. Not the amount of them in the marketplace 10 years later. What everyone spouting the exceptionally high ratio of newsstands to direct copies is conflating is taking the number of copies available in the collectors marketplace and extrapolating that ratio to say that's the number that was printed and that is just wrong. Are these books extraordinarily hard to find? Yes. Yes they are. Are they out there in boxes somewhere? Absolutely, because people don't know what they are. MetalPSI , jimjum12, Microchip and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post october Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 11:16 AM, jimjum12 said: Ann Landers once told a reader who had complained that after 8 years of Law School they would be 48, "After 8 years you'll be 48 anyway." Do it. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) He was right to complain about 8 years of law school. It's a 3 year degree. MetalPSI , onlyweaknesskryptonite, buttock and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 11:35 AM, FlyingDonut said: What everyone spouting the exceptionally high ratio of newsstands to direct copies is conflating is taking the number of copies available in the collectors marketplace and extrapolating that ratio to say that's the number that was printed and that is just wrong. Since "everyone" includes me, I'll point out that I have only said that exceptionally high ratios of newsstands to direct copies are the percentage available in the collectors marketplace. You will not find any posts where I suggested a number printed. paqart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 12:43 PM, Lazyboy said: You used to understand this. What changed? Following that link, you'll see that in 2019, I correctly stated that the percentage available in the market is NOT the percentage printed. That is still true, and nothing has changed. This discussion about what can be found in the marketplace is specifically about what can be found in the marketplace. We know exactly how many automobiles were made for certain manufacturers, right down to their individual serial numbers. Talking about what was printed in comics is like talking about how many cars were manufactured... if the market is actively seeking and not finding specific comics/cars, it is almost meaningless to say "they were definitely manufactured" way back when. The market depends on what is, and maybe what has been recently, and depends very little on what was. If we're talking about the current marketplace for a collectible, focusing on the number made is focusing on the wrong end of the timeline. paqart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I never cease to be amazed at the arguments that can happen on these boards. After all these years, I should be used to it, but I'm not. I can't even figure out what you guys are upset about. october, jimjum12 and MetalPSI 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 12:35 PM, valiantman said: Since "everyone" includes me, I'll point out that I have only said that exceptionally high ratios of newsstands to direct copies are the percentage available in the collectors marketplace. You will not find any posts where I suggested a number printed. Would you maybe care to revise that statement? Just in case you'd rather revise this post, I'll insert a screenshot here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 1:16 PM, Lazyboy said: On 1/31/2022 at 12:35 PM, valiantman said: Since "everyone" includes me, I'll point out that I have only said that exceptionally high ratios of newsstands to direct copies are the percentage available in the collectors marketplace. You will not find any posts where I suggested a number printed. Would you maybe care to revise that statement? Just in case you'd rather revise this post, I'll insert a screenshot here. No - in the situation where the availability in the marketplace is consistently 1%, I stick to my estimate that the original percentage printed might be 5%. Would you like to supply your sources which claim that newsstand was always at least 20% of the original print run? I'm happy to review them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 1:14 PM, buttock said: I never cease to be amazed at the arguments that can happen on these boards. After all these years, I should be used to it, but I'm not. I can't even figure out what you guys are upset about. Some of us are upset that people are making ridiculous assumptions and posting and spreading nonsense. Others are upset that they're being called out for doing so. RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 7:14 PM, buttock said: I never cease to be amazed at the arguments that can happen on these boards. After all these years, I should be used to it, but I'm not. I can't even figure out what you guys are upset about. Some people want to discuss the current availability of newsstands in the marketplace, and some others want to criticize them for making what they believe are incorrect claims about the original print run and ratio figures that they are not discussing and have said numerous times that they are not discussing. In other words, it's the usual CGC board fare when it comes to any subject about newsstands. paqart and onlyweaknesskryptonite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 12:19 PM, Get Marwood & I said: Some people want to discuss the current availability of newsstands in the marketplace, and some others want to criticize them for making what they believe are incorrect claims about the original print run and ratio figures that they are not discussing and have said numerous times that they are not discussing. In other words, it's the usual CGC board fare when it comes to any subject about newsstands. Yeah, someone should just email Marvel and see if they have that number. Otherwise it's opinion, and so long as you have some reasonable justification for it... which both sides appear to have... then why argue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 1:19 PM, Lazyboy said: Some of us are upset that people are making ridiculous assumptions and posting and spreading nonsense. Others are upset that they're being called out for doing so. Ridiculous statements like: "At least 20% of all print runs were newsstand"? Just clarifying which "some of us" are "spreading nonsense" and which "others are upset" we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 1:19 PM, valiantman said: No - in the situation where the availability in the marketplace is consistently 1%, I stick to my estimate that the original percentage printed might be 5%. You will stick to your estimate that the percentage of Newsstands printed could be 5% when returns are over 10%? That's... interesting. On 1/31/2022 at 1:19 PM, valiantman said: Would you like to supply your sources which claim that newsstand was always at least 20% of the original print run? I'm happy to review them. No, since I never said that. Come back when you understand what I wrote. RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
