Popular Post bounty_coder Posted February 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2022 I didn't realize that CGC was applying Pedigree Labels to File Copy books! For a period of time they were not... This is more of a public service announcement in case you weren't aware as well... Pantodude, grendelbo, Sauce Dog and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauce Dog Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I really hope this isn't a mistake as I'm about to send a few old slabs in for reholdering and will totally add another half dozen books to the pile if I can spruce em up with my favourite label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 It’s considered a pedigree by CGC after all. https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/pedigree/gaines/ Brandon Shepherd and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transplant Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 They'll run out issuing them for Harvey file copies. Ah the good old days when Geppi was blowing out cases (individually) through Heritage of raw HG Harvey books. Tsp99 and Badger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Shepherd Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I’m not sure how I feel about this. I never considered or thought of file copies as pedigrees. jimbo_7071 and Iconic1s 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) On 2/24/2022 at 4:33 PM, Brandon Shepherd said: I’m not sure how I feel about this. I never considered or thought of file copies as pedigrees. Do you think they are better or worse? I think I'd take an EC file copy over an equal pedigree copy compiled by Joe Schmoe any day due to the association with the publisher. Edited February 25, 2022 by sfcityduck Tsp99, IngelsFan and Randall Dowling 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bounty_coder Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 4:55 PM, sfcityduck said: Do you think they are better or worse? I think I'd take an EC file copy over an equal pedigree copy compiled by Joe Schmoe any day due to the association with the publisher. It's interesting as the Gaines File Copies have always been given Pedigree treatment. The Harvey and Dell File copies though have not historically. I like that they are now getting special treatment; the question is...is it "too special" I don't consider them anywhere near the providence as our beloved Pedigrees (Church/Larson/San Francisco/Allentown/Spokane/etc.etc) nor the Gaines books. But with that said, I do Love that the File Copies I do have now get to look extra jazzy... Brandon Shepherd, grendelbo, Changer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-ColorBrian Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Harvey File copies ARE original owner books... tth2, bounty_coder, sfcityduck and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bounty_coder Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 5:45 PM, Tri-ColorBrian said: Harvey File copies ARE original owner books... Indeed. Tri-ColorBrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Shepherd Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 5:55 PM, sfcityduck said: Do you think they are better or worse? I think I'd take an EC file copy over an equal pedigree copy compiled by Joe Schmoe any day due to the association with the publisher. A good question and a great example with EC! I don’t have a problem with file copies at all and agree it should be notated on the CGC label because of the association with the publisher. Like you, I’d take an EC Copy anytime. I always thought of the difference between file copies and pedigrees as one being set aside by those in the publishing office, or more so overstock over collections assembled by an individual collector who bought each issue new from a newsstand. As I type this, I’m thinking about how this can be discussed and debated. So, the short answer to your question is that I do not think they are worse. sfcityduck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-ColorBrian Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Question for Harvey experts: Are there Harvey file copies that would only grade 6.0 or 7.5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 6:37 PM, bounty_coder said: It's interesting as the Gaines File Copies have always been given Pedigree treatment. The Harvey and Dell File copies though have not historically. I like that they are now getting special treatment; the question is...is it "too special" I don't consider them anywhere near the providence as our beloved Pedigrees (Church/Larson/San Francisco/Allentown/Spokane/etc.etc) nor the Gaines books. But with that said, I do Love that the File Copies I do have now get to look extra jazzy... I love my high grade Harveys but they're not really 'file' copies, they're leftover/warehouse copies right? They weren't sitting in an office used as reference or for any other purpose by the publisher. True file copies, I'm ok with getting special label treatment. There's worthwhile provenance to convey. Warehouse copies...eh, I dunno. As an aside, I don't really like the gold labels. Am I alone in that? Transplant and Topnotchman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-ColorBrian Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 8:18 PM, szav said: As an aside, I don't really like the gold labels. Am I alone in that? Yeah. Now go look at my email... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bounty_coder Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 7:18 PM, szav said: As an aside, I don't really like the gold labels. Am I alone in that? I like em'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1952 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 This one will look nice with gold label. bounty_coder, Tsp99 and grendelbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 8:56 PM, Tri-ColorBrian said: Question for Harvey experts: Are there Harvey file copies that would only grade 6.0 or 7.5? KCOComics, grendelbo, bounty_coder and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-ColorBrian Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 6:15 PM, Jayman said: Thanks. I was told this was a file copy, but it didn't come with any verification... Jayman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 8:21 PM, Tri-ColorBrian said: Thanks. I was told this was a file copy, but it didn't come with any verification... If that CoC 21 was cracked out, I’d never know it was a file copy. It’s a nice book and I believe the 7.5 is largely for the chip at the LLC. Tri-ColorBrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 7:56 PM, Tri-ColorBrian said: Question for Harvey experts: Are there Harvey file copies that would only grade 6.0 or 7.5? There are many Harvey File books with chippy paper quality that are lower grade. Tri-ColorBrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 8:33 PM, MrBedrock said: There are many Harvey File books with chippy paper quality that are lower grade. Are there any distinguishing marks for these Harvey file copies if found raw. How could one tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
