B2D327 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 1:37 PM, Courageous Cat said: throw enough poop on the wall and hope some of it sticks anyway, i say let him post it here since theres hardly anything good GA related that gets posted here lately Shots fired! Courageous Cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sweet Lou 14 Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 2:40 PM, Roger66 said: I never understood why its worth discussing what some third party chooses to sell their comics at or better yet how individuals choose to spend their own money. One man's $65 steak is another man's just as good Big Mac and another man's $150 bottle of wine is another man's just as good $12 bottle of wine. To each his own - substituting your values for someone else's let alone calling attention to what someone prices a comic on eBay is simply a waste of time and more a reflection of you then the other guy. my 2 cents I guess the only point I'll make is, imagine that when you (as an "end consumer") went to buy that steak, there was someone else (say, a restaurant owner) who bought that steak for higher than what you considered a fair price, and then tried to sell the steak for 50% or even 100% above that already ridiculous number. And keep in mind, in this fictitious scenario there are only about 20 such steaks in existence and the vast majority of those are not available for sale. It can be very frustrating as a collector trying to navigate a market full of flippers and market manipulators. lizards2, silverseeker, Pantodude and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger66 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 5:35 PM, Sweet Lou 14 said: I guess the only point I'll make is, imagine that when you (as an "end consumer") went to buy that steak, there was someone else (say, a restaurant owner) who bought that steak for higher than what you considered a fair price, and then tried to sell the steak for 50% or even 100% above that already ridiculous number. And keep in mind, in this fictitious scenario there are only about 20 such steaks in existence and the vast majority of those are not available for sale. It can be very frustrating as a collector trying to navigate a market full of flippers and market manipulators. I agree in part - I guess I am looking at this not as a rookie or even a sophomore collector. I am looking at this like a long-time collector, who when I go to a comic con - I know which 1 or 2 dealers to avoid and which ones I can spend hours with discussing prices and ultimately purchasing from. Thus the incessant almost cycadean-like chatter of overpriced comics on eBay etc - I simply am blind too at this point and don't get me started on some of those overpriced live sales on IG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 I look at it as, someone who prices their goods over market value probably won't sell much. It is frustrating when you want a book they have. They're betting on the hope that someone will be desperate enough to pay their asking price. Sometimes they find their sucker. Not smart business. Cat, mysterymachine, JollyComics and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joshua33 Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 As I'm mostly collecting pulps these days, this one is my favorite. Larryw7, steveinthecity, KirbyJack and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roger66 Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 6:51 PM, Joshua33 said: As I'm mostly collecting pulps these days, this one is my favorite. I made an offer on it for $999,999.99 but he let it expire. MetalPSI , Raze, Larryw7 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Holy Freakin' Cow This thread is still here MetalPSI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted March 22, 2022 Administrator Share Posted March 22, 2022 This doesn't belong in the FS section. I have moved it to comics general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 People can ask whatever they want for something, doesnt mean they will get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post THE_BEYONDER Posted March 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 8:08 PM, oakman29 said: People can ask whatever they want for something, doesnt mean they will get it. That’s deep oakman29, MetalPSI , Joshua33 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Lou 14 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 8:08 PM, oakman29 said: People can ask whatever they want for something, doesnt mean they will get it. True, but it's a form of market manipulation. It's very hard to track and confirm a pattern, but it seems that at least some of the time, setting a way-above-market asking price in one forum can influence the bidding on another. Joshua33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 5:01 PM, CGC Mike said: This doesn't belong in the FS section. I have moved it to comics general. I wondered why I suddenly felt covered with filth. Courageous Cat and MetalPSI 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Regardless of venue, the asking prices in general have turned ridiculous and unaffordable for most people, for anything with a hint of key desirability or vintage. It’s painful to look at offers anywhere; eBay, elsewhere online, or here, compared to the cheaper, happier, more carefree days of yore. It is a shocking and scary situation, as indicated by the OP’s thread title, and I personally prefer to distance myself and not stare into the abyss. Edited March 22, 2022 by Ken Aldred MetalPSI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) On 3/22/2022 at 12:08 AM, oakman29 said: People can ask whatever they want for something, doesnt mean they will get it. On 3/22/2022 at 12:44 AM, THE_BEYONDER said: That’s deep I concur, and to continue in an equally intellectual and philosophical mode of analysis, they can shove it these days, more often than not. Edited March 22, 2022 by Ken Aldred oakman29, MetalPSI and F For Fake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Lou 14 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 4:12 AM, Ken Aldred said: Regardless of venue, the asking prices in general have turned ridiculous and unaffordable for most people, for anything with a hint of key desirability or vintage. It’s painful to look at offers anywhere; eBay, elsewhere online, or here, compared to the cheaper, happier, more carefree days of yore. It is a shocking and scary situation, as indicated by the OP’s thread title, and I personally prefer to distance myself and not stare into the abyss. These past few months have gotten to the point that even I (who admittedly have a high tolerance for pain) have been discouraged or even flat out pissed off not only by the asking prices, but even more so by the prices some of these books are getting at auction. I'm talking about junk run fillers (in high grade, but still junk) going for multiples of anything reasonable. This just can't go on forever, it makes no sense. Ken Aldred, Number 6 and lizards2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeniorSurfer Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 4:12 AM, Ken Aldred said: Regardless of venue, the asking prices in general have turned ridiculous and unaffordable for most people, for anything with a hint of key desirability or vintage. It’s painful to look at offers anywhere; eBay, elsewhere online, or here, compared to the cheaper, happier, more carefree days of yore. It is a shocking and scary situation, as indicated by the OP’s thread title, and I personally prefer to distance myself and not stare into the abyss. On 3/22/2022 at 5:49 AM, Sweet Lou 14 said: These past few months have gotten to the point that even I (who admittedly have a high tolerance for pain) have been discouraged or even flat out pissed off not only by the asking prices, but even more so by the prices some of these books are getting at auction. I'm talking about junk run fillers (in high grade, but still junk) going for multiples of anything reasonable. This just can't go on forever, it makes no sense. Add to that buying fees or eBay taxes and the situation is really untenable. There's no getting around auction house fees (for those that have them) but I was scalded by that eBay tax they're collecting now from pretty much every state. It was talked about on another thread here, and I read it too, but came the moment to buy something and, as it had never affected me up to that moment, I forgot. There were a few books someone was selling, I bundled them, made a reasonable offer, and the seller was nice enough to accept. When I got the eBay invoice, pretty much everything I had negotiated off was wiped out by a 7% tax added (on a 5-figure deal). I was tempted to tell the seller and just cancel, but a deal's a deal and it wasn't his fault so I just paid up and learned a lesson. Joshua33 and MGsimba77 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) On 3/22/2022 at 2:49 AM, Sweet Lou 14 said: These past few months have gotten to the point that even I (who admittedly have a high tolerance for pain) have been discouraged or even flat out pissed off not only by the asking prices, but even more so by the prices some of these books are getting at auction. I'm talking about junk run fillers (in high grade, but still junk) going for multiples of anything reasonable. This just can't go on forever, it makes no sense. I'm glad I'm not the only one to feel this way. I thought maybe I was just cheap. But I can't justify paying $1000 for a book I could have gotten for $200 just a few years ago (which increased from $100-$200 in the last 15 years). You're right, it cannot sustain. I left the hobby in 2013 because I couldn't afford the books I wanted, and couldn't get excited about non-key issues or copies in poor condition. Since then, my income as tripled, so I was excited to finally get the books I couldn't afford back then. Well, prices have more than tripled (in the last year), so I'm in the same boat. Edited March 22, 2022 by Rob Sweet Lou 14, Joshua33, silverseeker and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N e r V Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 5:08 PM, oakman29 said: People can ask whatever they want for something, doesnt mean they will get it. Courageous Cat, JollyComics, Larryw7 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) On 3/21/2022 at 1:35 PM, goldust40 said: I saw that and of course that has no bearing on reality whatsoever. Great cover of course. Anyway, wrong forum - this is the GA/SA/BA marketplace. Unless you happen to have a Wonder Comics 2 for sale... Whoops? I see the Mod moved it, thanks! Edited March 22, 2022 by path4play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua33 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 8:25 AM, SeniorSurfer said: Add to that buying fees or eBay taxes and the situation is really untenable. There's no getting around auction house fees (for those that have them) but I was scalded by that eBay tax they're collecting now from pretty much every state. It was talked about on another thread here, and I read it too, but came the moment to buy something and, as it had never affected me up to that moment, I forgot. There were a few books someone was selling, I bundled them, made a reasonable offer, and the seller was nice enough to accept. When I got the eBay invoice, pretty much everything I had negotiated off was wiped out by a 7% tax added (on a 5-figure deal). I was tempted to tell the seller and just cancel, but a deal's a deal and it wasn't his fault so I just paid up and learned a lesson. Sales Tax?! We don't have that problem. oakman29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...