allyz Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 There's a good chance it isn't historic at all (and created in the last 20 years to boot) or it is for sale. Hockeyflow33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 How about an example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobrac Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 12:24 PM, grapeape said: How about an example? https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1839820 (and almost everything else this guy posts for sale) grapeape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 A historic “birth” page. Interesting. I don’t know enough about him. Is Jake Gallows a big deal in Marvel? The Marvel Universe? I’ve seen my share of creative salesmanship What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud cloddie Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 12:59 PM, lobrac said: https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1839820 (and almost everything else this guy posts for sale) Historic is a stretch on that one, but not as egregious as other first appearance pages I’ve seen come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamouspure22 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 What would an example of a truly historic piece look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lobrac Posted July 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 4:17 PM, Infamouspure22 said: What would an example of a truly historic piece look like? fenip, delekkerste, szucchini and 19 others 8 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamouspure22 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) On 7/28/2022 at 7:30 PM, lobrac said: Ok but if this is historic, nothing else can be. No one beats Chuck Norris. Edited July 29, 2022 by Infamouspure22 MAR1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varanis Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 7:44 PM, Bill C said: I have to admit, I'm not a fan of the wording on the GOTG 12 page for sale- the Spirit of Vengeance is not the same Cosmic Ghost Rider popular today, and is not even a prototype in the sense that Cates didn't even know of Valentino's Spirit of Vengeance when creating the Cosmic Ghost Rider. Both creators were very public about this fact. The wording on that listing is pretty ambiguous and the absolutely insane pricing is I feel done in the hope that someone will buy something that is not what it is implied to be. Jordan's a really nice guy. But don't get me started on how that listing is worded... Bill C, John E., MOStateSuperman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatari Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Mandel was on a recent Felix podcast complaining about this very thing. I couldn’t help but think of that particular gallery. Sadly, I think it takes away from some of the great pieces in there. If everything is historic and special, then it feels like nothing really is. Sean I, Hockeyflow33 and Bronty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Apparently, it sold. Don’t feed the flipper, man MAR1979 and vodou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hmendryk Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 7:17 PM, Infamouspure22 said: What would an example of a truly historic piece look like? I guess it depends on what you mean by historic. Pocket Comics #4 (January 1942) by Joe Simon. Rick2you2, The Voord, davidtere and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 4:04 AM, Race said: I miss the days when CAF was not polluted with endless hype like this, scores of non-comics Euro art, and Marcus Wai's comments. Is it possible for a listing to ever be removed from CAF? Between all the people violating the premium membership rules by selling, the endless Euro pornography, and stuff like this one does wonder: https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1839917 cloud cloddie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sean I Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 Agree with most statements here. It is interesting typing in “historic” in the search function and seeing the varying results! I do want to say that I personally like Marcus Wai’s comments, while they’re ubiquitous they are brief and often thoughtful, and certainly harmless. MagnusX, cloud cloddie, comix4fun and 8 others 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aahz Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I understand why Bill (Cox) does not want to get involved in parsing out what does or does not belong on CAF. You can argue about taste, etc. However, as CAF and the hobby grows, I think he is going to have to do some segregation and policing of different CAF pages or risk becoming like Ebay. I think being swayed by hyperbole is an issue with any hobby. People collect differently and different things, and maybe they want the first appearances. Their thing. However, unlike the example above (https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1839917), Jordan is also a collector. Jay Johnston (owner of the CAF page cited) does not appear to be a collector. Leaving all issues of politics or quality of work aside, I don't think a page like this should be in the regular "collector" flow. Perhaps an amateur artist or artist section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatari Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Agreed. Jordan has a great collection which is why the extension of “historic” to such a wide range of pieces in his gallery actually diminishes the pieces that truly are incredible. They sort of get lost in the noise. John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I am struggling to understand how this page is in any way a 1st appearance page?? What am I missing? https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1735963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post comix4fun Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 6:04 AM, Race said: I miss the days when CAF was not polluted with endless hype like this, "recreations," scores of non-comics Euro art, and Marcus Wai's comments. Hey Now!!! That man, and is comments, are a NATIONAL TREASURE!! Some of those comments are....historic. Wolvie_Fan, John E., buttock and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 6:46 AM, cstojano said: Between all the people violating the premium membership rules by selling, What's the premium membership rule against selling? I've been a premium member so long I can't tell you what any of the rules are at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RBerman Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 7:19 AM, Sean- said: Agree with most statements here. It is interesting typing in “historic” in the search function and seeing the varying results! I do want to say that I personally like Marcus Wai’s comments, while they’re ubiquitous they are brief and often thoughtful, and certainly harmless. I'm impressed with the variety of ways Marcus finds to talk about a piece. It's no easy feat, and preferable to just "Nice art." Not that I mind when people say that about my postings on CAF! nightbells, hmendryk, davidtere and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
