buttock Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 How would CGC knows who owns a comic once it changes hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThothAmon Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 10:12 AM, Ryan. said: ebay sellers do weird things. This, exactly. Given the feedback I’m pretty sure there’s nothing nefarious going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 9:49 AM, lizards2 said: Hello, we happen to live 1 mile from CGC headquarters. From this one statement, Jason Bourne could find him. bc, Turnando and kav 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 9:52 AM, Gaard said: On 11/11/2022 at 6:49 AM, lizards2 said: Hello, we happen to live 1 mile from CGC headquarters. From this one statement, Jason Bourne could find him. I know - I'm sure the eBay name matches the store as well. They sell an eclectic bunch of carp - so the statement definitely smells fishy. You could also just order something and get the exact address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Balls Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 10:40 AM, lizards2 said: One I was looking at a was a 9.4, which I know, could be a 9.0. Several others were in lower grades. OK, I might stand corrected. How messed up can a 9.4 be on the inside? I thought it might have been a GA book in that lower grade area, where a nice looking 4.0 can have tears, tanning, creases, tape all on the inside not denoted on the label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning55 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) Some ebay sellers will cover the certification number if they are selling multiples of identically graded comics, maybe 10 at a time. Like X-Men 1 @ 9.8 (Vol. 2). That way they don't have to photograph all 10, both sides, create 10 different listings or swap out photos on every relist. They just use one as representative of what you will get, like a stock photo, figuring a 9.8 is a 9.8. If they leave the cert number showing, the buyer would expect to get that specific one, and 9 of 10 people won't. Usually a harmless method, but if it was an expensive comic with the number obscured, that's not good. Edited November 11, 2022 by Lightning55 Flex Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted November 11, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 12:17 PM, CGC Mike said: On 11/11/2022 at 10:03 AM, Ryan. said: @CGC Mike Any opinion on this seller's proposal that CGC has signaled an intention to institute policies that are directly contrary to prevailing data privacy regulations? I'll check but, I am pretty much certain this is false. As you all probably already know, this information the ebay seller provided is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Balls Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 11:51 AM, CGC Mike said: As you all probably already know, this information the ebay seller provided is false. Dammit. I was hoping for a wicked hot Friday conspiracy thread. bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 10:36 AM, Lightning55 said: Some ebay sellers will cover the certification number if they are selling multiples of identically graded comics, maybe 10 at a time. Like X-Men 1 @ 9.8 (Vol. 2). That way they don't have to photograph all 10, both sides, create 10 different listings or swap out photos on every relist. They just use one as representative of what you will get, like a stock photo, figuring a 9.8 is a 9.8. If they leave the cert number showing, the buyer would expect to get that specific one, and 9 of 10 people won't. Usually a harmless method, but if it was an expensive comic with the number obscured, that's not good. Yeah - these are silver age books from 3.5 to 9.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 @lizards2 time for another msg to seller- yeah CGC says that is false so what else ya got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 12:46 PM, buttock said: How would CGC knows who owns a comic once it changes hands? The only critical thinker in the thread. Class gets a fail. Dr. Balls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 1:28 PM, VintageComics said: The only critical thinker in the thread. Class gets a fail. Mods notified. Larryw7 and Mystafo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 3:28 PM, VintageComics said: The only critical thinker in the thread. Class gets a fail. And you wonder why you can’t make friends here.... lizards2, Larryw7, thunsicker and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 12:28 PM, VintageComics said: On 11/11/2022 at 9:46 AM, buttock said: How would CGC knows who owns a comic once it changes hands? The only critical thinker in the thread. Class gets a fail. Two other people mentioned this early on page one, Roy. masterlogan2000 and Lazyboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 5:41 PM, lizards2 said: Two other people mentioned this early on page one, Roy. Roy gets a fail. Mystafo, thunsicker and Larryw7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricprune Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 9:49 AM, lizards2 said: I asked an eBay seller why he has CGC verification numbers covered up with tape. This was the response: Hello, we happen to live 1 mile from CGC headquarters. Word spreads quickly here. The word is that CGC will be making comic owners information public. So with just the CGC number, I will be able to go on their site and see who the owner of the comic is. Personally, I don't want anybody knowing some of the comics I have. It invites all sorts of issues, not to mention that it borders on being an invasion of privacy.With the number being covered, whomever the purchaser is can rest assured that nobody outside this circle will ever know that he/she owns it.Regards Not the question I was expecting... or hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 3:26 PM, VintageComics said: Roy gets a fail. C - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWL Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 12:36 PM, Lightning55 said: Some ebay sellers will cover the certification number if they are selling multiples of identically graded comics, maybe 10 at a time. Like X-Men 1 @ 9.8 (Vol. 2). That way they don't have to photograph all 10, both sides, create 10 different listings or swap out photos on every relist. They just use one as representative of what you will get, like a stock photo, figuring a 9.8 is a 9.8. If they leave the cert number showing, the buyer would expect to get that specific one, and 9 of 10 people won't. Usually a harmless method, but if it was an expensive comic with the number obscured, that's not good. That seems like a reasonable explanation if indeed there are multiples in the same grade. In this instance, I don't think that is the case. I suspect the seller does not want anyone looking up the grader notes (if there are any). And we now know the seller's assertion CGC is planning on making customers private information public, which, of course, is ridiculous. I find the additional details about living close to CGC suspicious. There is interesting research which suggests when people are not telling the truth they tend to add additional details to try and make a story seem more plausible. Not always, but often, it is a sign they are not being truthful. Turnando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 4:19 PM, DWL said: That seems like a reasonable explanation if indeed there are multiples in the same grade. In this instance, I don't think that is the case. I suspect the seller does not want anyone looking up the grader notes (if there are any). And we now know the seller's assertion CGC is planning on making customers private information public, which, of course, is ridiculous. I find the additional details about living close to CGC suspicious. There is interesting research which suggests when people are not telling the truth they tend to add additional details to try and make a story seem more plausible. Not always, but often, it is a sign they are not being truthful. I did tell the seller, "Your explanation doesn't sound plausible. Most will just assume you're selling stolen property." The response was, "We're the ones who sent it to CGC lol, so we aren't worried. It's still a semi-free country, people can assume what they want, and they usually do. The fact remains the same, only the buyer will know the number. We're not forcing anyone to bid, and we would encourage anyone who thinks it's stolen - to not bid." ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 12:35 PM, lizards2 said: The response was, "We're the ones who sent it to CGC lol, so we aren't worried. It's still a semi-free country, people can assume what they want, and they usually do. The fact remains the same, only the buyer will know the number. We're not forcing anyone to bid, and we would encourage anyone who thinks it's stolen - to not bid." ThothAmon and Turnando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...