Bronty Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 1:01 PM, Carlo M said: I am no Frazetta expert, so I would be curious to know how collectors of his work compare Dark Kingdom to Egyptian Queen. Is it viewed as a superior piece or the market even in today's shaky condition is higher than 2019? I think usually boobs get the win but EQ was revised after publication and this wasn’t; it might be close. I’d still give EQ the edge. And even what I’ve posted is no doubt biased by this 6m number. I’m not saying this piece is close a month ago. Mmehdy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 9:34 AM, KirbyCollector said: Halperin bidding against himself again? I think he has other concerns right now, unfortunately. Xatari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stinkininkin Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 10:01 AM, Carlo M said: I am no Frazetta expert, so I would be curious to know how collectors of his work compare Dark Kingdom to Egyptian Queen. Is it viewed as a superior piece or the market even in today's shaky condition is higher than 2019? With Frazetta art, you have to know the "three B's". Babes, Barbarians and Beasts, in that order. I'm sorta kidding, but not kidding. Vintage, medium, size, and general eye appeal matter a LOT, but those things being equal, the more B's you have in a given piece, the higher the premium. As far as this specific comparison, I would take Egyptian Queen all day over Dark Kingdom, and so would 99.9% of my fellow Frazetta collectors, regardless of price. delekkerste, Mighty Hal, davidtere and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 11:29 AM, Bronty said: I think he has other concerns right now, unfortunately. DM me the details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 8:01 PM, batman_fan said: DM me the details This isn’t popcorn news. Very sad and I have prayed for Jim and his family all week 🙏🏼 Michael Browning and Xatari 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyCollector Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 9:35 PM, Peter G said: This isn’t popcorn news. Very sad and I have prayed for Jim and his family all week 🙏🏼 Would someone mind explaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischb1 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 10:05 PM, KirbyCollector said: Would someone mind explaining? Jim's son, Mikey, passed away last week (at a very young age). alxjhnsn, NicoV, The Voord and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyCollector Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Apologies, was unaware... have no social accounts so did not know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischb1 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/18/2023 at 10:48 AM, KirbyCollector said: Apologies, was unaware... have no social accounts so did not know A few people who knew the family knew, but then last night they announced it at Heroe's Con. So I guess it's public knowledge now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Browning Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/18/2023 at 11:26 AM, Fischb1 said: A few people who knew the family knew, but then last night they announced it at Heroe's Con. So I guess it's public knowledge now. Yeah, I knew it several days ago, but wasn’t sure if it was public knowledge yet, or else I would have said something when the first post was made. Such a sad time for Jim and his family. Fischb1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 10:34 AM, The Voord said: Yeah, we've had this discussion before, Dan, lol. As you may recall, all my bids went on interior panel pages from the same graphic novel. Averaging around $1,500 a page when I was letting HA bid on my behalf . . . Averaging around $500 - 750 a page when I switched to direct participation in the live bidding. Co-incidence? Who knows. An alternative explanation, which I've seen play out on HA before, is that when they offer several similar pieces staggered in time the first few go highest, then the others sell for less as bidders check their boxes and the pool shrinks. Rick2you2, tth2 and The Voord 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/18/2023 at 3:08 AM, stinkininkin said: On 6/18/2023 at 1:01 AM, Carlo M said: I am no Frazetta expert, so I would be curious to know how collectors of his work compare Dark Kingdom to Egyptian Queen. Is it viewed as a superior piece or the market even in today's shaky condition is higher than 2019? With Frazetta art, you have to know the "three B's". Babes, Barbarians and Beasts, in that order. I'm sorta kidding, but not kidding. Vintage, medium, size, and general eye appeal matter a LOT, but those things being equal, the more B's you have in a given piece, the higher the premium. As far as this specific comparison, I would take Egyptian Queen all day over Dark Kingdom, and so would 99.9% of my fellow Frazetta collectors, regardless of price. Egyptian Queen is Top 3 Frazetta. Randall Dowling, stinkininkin and Mmehdy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voord Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 3:04 AM, buttock said: An alternative explanation, which I've seen play out on HA before, is that when they offer several similar pieces staggered in time the first few go highest, then the others sell for less as bidders check their boxes and the pool shrinks. That's quite possible though I'm not convinced either way and will continue to play it safe by bidding live. buttock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo M Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 5:38 AM, tth2 said: Egyptian Queen is Top 3 Frazetta. Without being a Frazetta expert, and with no context around his work, I also prefer EQ. More subtle and mysterious, with a great atmosphere. So it is fair to argue that the Frazetta market today is stronger than it was in 2019. I think it is an interesting datapoint, the 2020 effect obviously has not worn off entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 8:53 AM, Carlo M said: Without being a Frazetta expert, and with no context around his work, I also prefer EQ. More subtle and mysterious, with a great atmosphere. So it is fair to argue that the Frazetta market today is stronger than it was in 2019. I think it is an interesting datapoint, the 2020 effect obviously has not worn off entirely. I think it’s super easy to overthink it. There’s probably only one person paying these figures. I would guess the prices are more about what he’d pay and what the family’s reserves are than what the rest of the market does. At least for these giant price tag pieces. I have no particular knowledge of this and could well be wrong. That’s just my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TupennyConan Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 DK > EQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtcheap31 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 6:02 AM, Bronty said: I think it’s super easy to overthink it. There’s probably only one person paying these figures. I would guess the prices are more about what he’d pay and what the family’s reserves are than what the rest of the market does. At least for these giant price tag pieces. I have no particular knowledge of this and could well be wrong. That’s just my guess. But with any auction you need at least two people willing to go that high Mmehdy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) On 6/19/2023 at 6:54 PM, Dirtcheap31 said: But with any auction you need at least two people willing to go that high Not with a reserve, in that case the reserve is the "other person", ie, the consignor. Edited June 19, 2023 by cstojano tth2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfRulers Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 9:09 AM, TupennyConan said: DK > EQ Donkey Kong is greater than EverQuest. Agreed. szucchini, TupennyConan and Bronty 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TupennyConan Posted June 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2023 Let's review: 1. Frazetta sucks. 2 HA sucks. 3. Weird legs on DK, so it sucks. 4. Halperin sucks. 5. EQ way better than DK, because it sucks. 6. Only 1 person in the hobby can afford nosebleedprices, because we suck. batman_fan, Rick2you2, KingOfRulers and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
