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Jsibilo

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On 10/15/2023 at 4:17 PM, Jsibilo said:

Hi @CGC Mike

I believe that on Batman the New 52 #6 it should be noted that it is the court of owls' first full appearance. They have become such a major group in Batman lore not to mention becoming such a fan favourite. they are arguably the most popular new villain (group) that come to Batman in the last 15 years. Not to mention how they are being used more in more in pop culture (movies, video games, and ETC).  I will be sending mine to get graded and would love to that notation. thanks for reading have a great day. 

Batman #6 Value - GoCollect (batman-6-3 )

@CGC Mike Hi was wondering if this is being taken into consideration? Thanks have a great day. 

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On 11/2/2023 at 6:04 AM, Jsibilo said:

@CGC Mike Hi was wondering if this is being taken into consideration? Thanks have a great day. 

Everything posted will be taken into consideration.  Your post has been sent to the team.  When I receive another batch of changes, I will post them.

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Here is another batch sent to me from our database specialist.

ADAMANTIUM

 

This is going to sound hum drum as well, but here goes:

2nd appearances of Deadpool and Harley Quinn in continuity? Ie x-force #2 and Batman #570?

Would be nice to nail those down, as they've been touted as such for so long, might as well get in on it to substantiate?

Imo, but idk both are really modern, and idk that 2nd app get notated that much on those, but bare in mind, it's been 30 years >>

 

The label for X-Force #2 has stated "2nd appearance of Deadpool" for as long as I can remember.

For Harley Quinn, it is a bit different, as she made several (out-of-continuity) comic book appearances before Batman #570.  CGC has Key Comments for characters that state "1st appearance of...", "2nd appearance of...." and "1st appearance of ______ in continuity", but I don't know if we need to start adding "2nd appearance of ______ in continuity." 

 

IcedDog

 

Star Wars: The High Republic #1 (Marvel Comics, 12/22) - 1st appearance of Vildar Mac, Matthea Cathley, Oliviah Zeveron, and Tey Sirrek in comics.

All are main characters in this run, thanks.>>

 

These characters' first appearances (and a few others who appear in that issue) have now been added.

 

jjfversion1

 Seven Soldiers: Frankenstein #1 - First Appearance of Eric Frankenstein

Seven Soldiers: Frankenstein #3 - First Appearance of Bride of Frankenstein>>

 

This one seems complicated as the characters appear to be linked to their literary namesakes and some other comic book appearances.  I feel that we need more data confirming that these are separate characters and that the issues in question are indeed their first appearances. The websites and references that I have found so far are not conclusive.

 

ADAMANTIUM

Can we add star wars #5 mace windu As the first in continuity of Ahsoka?   It's being sold for a long time as such, and promoted also as such by other media, would be nice to confirm with cgc. >>>

 

This is another request that is made very complicated by the character's multi-media history.  The appearances that the character made in Dark Horse Comics were in continuity until Marvel resumed having the rights to Sar Wars, and then those appearances were retroactively made to be out of continuity.  A comic could be argued to have a character's "first appearance in Marvel Comics" but I don't think that Mace Windu #5 would apply in that case. The character doesn't actually appear "in person", so to speak, but instead is seen a one-panel montage of a vision of various characters.

 

 Domo Arigato

 

Not sure were this Action Comics #61 notation error originated (Overstreet?).....but it's not correct.

Superman is not fighting atomic radiation on the cover.  He's fighting an oil well fire.  How do you tell?:

The four huge oil drilling rigs in the background.

The massive fire and black smoke shooting out of the hole in the ground (why would atomic radiation cause fire and smoke to shoot out of the ground?).

The men are not wearing radiation suits.  They are suits used for fighting oil well fires to protect them from the flames and intense heat (Link to fire fighting equipment....see an image of a similar suit below from that linked page).

You can see the exact same type of oil drilling rigs (and fire) in the picture at the bottom of this post.

The comic is from 1943...well before the first detonation of a nuclear device, and before the general public was even aware of them.

Edit: For those thinking this sounds familiar.....I discussed the same topic in this thread two years ago.>>

 

Apparently, the Key Comment for this issue used to be simply "Classic cover", but at some point was updated to "Historic Atomic radiation cover". From the imagery on the cover, it does appear conclusively that it depicts firefighters at an oil well, and is not related to radiation. The Key Comment has now been changed back to "Classic cover."

 

Stefan_W

 

This is more a CGC Census thing than a slab notation, but for Batman 608 there is a 2nd printing error variant that is noted as such on the slab. However, the census does not distinguish the error variants and groups all of the 2nd print 608s together. As a result, there is no way of knowing how uncommon this error variant is.  >>

There does not appear to be a large enough percentage of error copies to warrant breaking out as a separate variant. Out of the 2200+ copies we have graded thus far, 19 of the copies include this error.

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ADAMANTIUM

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Awesome, we'll some of us tried!

I'm just thankful that there are notes or responses to clarify why, yay or nay, thanks for that @CGC Mike

Most make sense, and or, I can live with them, and I understand CGC's position :) 

I'll definitely try to be more selective of any other of my suggestions :cheers: 

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Comics Festival! nn 2005
Includes a one-page Scott Pilgrim comic by Bryan Lee O'Malley

Comics Festival! nn 2007
Includes a half-page Scott Pilgrim comic and a 4-page Wonderful World of Kim Pine comic by Bryan Lee O'Malley

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I've been meaning to ask if all star comics 59 is the second power girl, although I vaguely remember that addition once upon a time, I've yet to see it on a label..

Would be a cool add "if not already done 👍"

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On 10/24/2023 at 7:06 AM, Pantodude said:

Wow.  Again, Robin overlooked.  This time Batman #1.  Robin is significant enough to have his third appearance noted in Batman 1, too.  The Bat1 label currently notes "Hugo Strange appearance. Batman & Robin pin-up on back cover," so before those mentions?  Or instead of either of those if space is an issue?   

Bump :popcorn:

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On 12/17/2023 at 4:51 PM, CGC Mike said:

Our Database Specialist has been very busy.  When I am provided with any answers to people's requests, I will post them.  Meanwhile, enjoy all of the free popcorn.  :smile:

Hi @CGC Mike can you let me know if my requests for "First Cover Appearance" were considered for the following books:

ASM #51 - Kingpin

ST #118 - Dr. Strange

New Gods #2 - Darkseid

Captain Marvel #28 - Thanos

Also, I agree with Batman #6 - first full appearance of Court of Owls would be a great addition!

Thanks so much!

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On 2/1/2024 at 11:19 PM, twoseezy said:

Hi @CGC Mike can you let me know if my requests for "First Cover Appearance" were considered for the following books:

I will bump the e-mail I have with the Database Specialist and ask if he has time for consideration of requests that have been made.

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On 2/2/2024 at 8:42 AM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Thank you for all of your hard work on these boards.

It is noticed and appreciated!

Also.:popcorn:

Thank you.  I was told by the Database Specialist that he hopes to work on this some more this weekend.

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This in from out busy, Database Specialist at 3:45 AM this morning.

<<DiscoPastry

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Woman Woman #157 (1942 series) should notate the first appearance of Egg Fu. >>

 

This has now been added.

 

twoseezy

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Similar to Wonder Woman, Joker, Catwoman, (Sensation #1, DC #40 and #122 respectively), and many other great characters, the below books should be given the designation “first cover appearance of _____” 

1.    Strange Tales #118 - Dr. Strange

Depicted in the bottom 1/4 of the book with his name displayed prominently. He is also holding the Eye of Agamotto, a key item in the character’s mythos. More than a floating head that is for sure!  

2.    New Gods #2 - Darkseid

Depicted with his name displayed prominently. He is at the forefront and drawn larger than any of the posse of characters behind him. Much more than a tiny floating head.

3.    Amazing Spider-Man #51 - Kingpin

Depicted prominently on the cover.

4.    Captain Marvel #28 - Thanos

Depicted prominently on the cover.

 

"1st Kingpin cover" has now been added to ASM #51.

The first recognized cover appearance of Thanos is Captain Marvel #26

Dr. Strange & Darkseid's first cover appearances will have to be discussed with the other graders.

 

<<Nsschenks

  •  How old does a comic have to be to get a "classic cover" notation? I feel like Batman #423 could definitely qualify, in terms of books from more recent eras. 35 years old, and there really isn't anything else about the issue that drives its popularity.>>

 

Most of CGC's "Classic cover" label designations come directly from Overstreet. But otherwise, there's no leading authority or when books should be added to that list. Batman #423 and certain other "Modern" books are certainly well-know enough and have been homaged dozens of times, Whether that's enough for them to attain a "classic cover" notation is up for debate. I'd certainly be open to hearing opinions from multiple people.

 

<<jjfversion1

 

Any chance we can get some notes for Sentai #2, as it is the first comic appearance of the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers?

I don’t believe any MMPR comics have that noted on the label yet, so hopefully it is an easy addition.

I have been wanting to send my copy in for grading for quite some time, but have been waiting to see if there will ever be a label update. Thanks in advance!>

 

The first comic book appearance of the MMPR is unfortunately not as clear cut at one would hope. From our research, the book that most people consider their first appearance is a giveaway comic from Fruit of the Loom-

https://powerrangers.fandom.com/wiki/Mighty_Morphin_Power_Rangers_Fruit_of_the_Loom%C2%AE_Premium

 

<<Browns81

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The Tick #4 should be noted as the 1st appearance of Arthur, a major character in the series.>>

This has now been added.

 

 

 

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Harley Quinn #18 (2022) is a Batman #1 "homage" that reuses Bob Kane artwork. Ryan Sook is the only listed cover artist but he only drew the Harley Quinn. DC themselves has "VARIANT COVER BY BOBE KANE & RYAN SOOK" printed above the barcode.Batman is drawn by Kane.

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Here's more from our Database Specialist.

<<twoseezy

Hi all!

Similar to Wonder Woman, Joker, Catwoman, (Sensation #1, DC #40 and #122 respectively), and many other great characters, the below books should be given the designation “first cover appearance of _____” 

1.    Strange Tales #118 - Dr. Strange

Depicted in the bottom 1/4 of the book with his name displayed prominently. He is also holding the Eye of Agamotto, a key item in the character’s mythos. More than a floating head that is for sure!  

2.    New Gods #2 - Darkseid

Depicted with his name displayed prominently. He is at the forefront and drawn larger than any of the posse of characters behind him. Much more than a tiny floating head.>>

 

After consulting with the other graders, the wording we have now added to the Key Comments for these two books are: "1st Dr. Strange on cover." and "1st Darkseid on cover.", respectively.

 

<<mtlevy1

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Conan 58 1st Belit

(You can remove 1st Belit from Conan GS 1 - it only mentions her name - the tiny woman is not Belit, it is Valeria - if you can't admit the error then go Belot cameo if you must)

Compare this to Hulk 180/181 if you doubt that Beloit's 1st App is Conan 58>>

 

Again, after consulting with the other graders and doing some research, we have changed Giant-Size Conan #1 to say "1st appearance of Belit in cameo." and Conan #58 to state "1st full appearance of Belit."

 

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