PGM Marvel Mystery Comics #83 2 2

[L'Angelo Misterioso]

It's highly unlikely that I submit this to CGC, but I thought this book would be an interesting study in what grade a book like this one would receive. Who hole-punches a comic??  Additionally, if I were to sell, is there still strong market value for a hole-punched Timely such as this? You can be honest--I got this book for free and wouldn't be hurt if I were to find out that this book is worthless to potential buyers. Thanks for the help.

 

 

[scburdet]

CGC books says 3.0-5.0 with most falling between 3.0-4.0. I would put this at 4.0 b/c the rest of the book looks around that. Somewhere in this forum was a recent post about hole punches, where a Qualified AF15 was brought up. I think it was >8Q

[zzutak]

Your MMC #83 was part of a set of Timely/Marvel/Atlas file copies that came to market in the 1970s.  Here are a few of its better-preserved siblings (note that all have a similar check mark in the title logo):

I'm not sure your book's condition is nice enough to be eligible for a Qualified Grade.  Is the cover completely detached at the staples, or is only the front cover detached?

[zzutak]

On 5/8/2023 at 7:11 PM, scburdet said:

Somewhere in this forum was a recent post about hole punches, where a Qualified AF15 was brought up.

One of the first books graded by CGC (in April 2000).   

[L'Angelo Misterioso]

Interesting....

[thehumantorch]

On 5/8/2023 at 9:08 PM, L'Angelo Misterioso said:

Interesting....

Some collectors stored books by punching holes and putting them in binders.  Some collectors had their books bound into hardcover books which required stitching along the spine and I believe trimming.  Generally long before bags and boards and before condition was really important.  Times have changed    And to give it a grade I'm around 3.0 to 3.5.  I had a USA Comics 14 that was similar but lower grade come back 2.5

Edited May 9, 2023 by thehumantorch

[scburdet]

On 5/9/2023 at 12:04 AM, zzutak said:

April 2000

presumably reholdered b/c that doesn't look like the 1st gen slabs at all

[L'Angelo Misterioso]

On 5/8/2023 at 7:54 PM, zzutak said:

Your MMC #83 was part of a set of Timely/Marvel/Atlas file copies that came to market in the 1970s.  Here are a few of its better-preserved siblings (note that all have a similar check mark in the title logo):

I'm not sure your book's condition is nice enough to be eligible for a Qualified Grade.  Is the cover completely detached at the staples, or is only the front cover detached?

So, there's others one like it! Did not realize this was one of many file copies. I think this copy doesn't look as crisp as those Caps because the guy I got it from was always reading his books. It's only the front cover detached. 

[L'Angelo Misterioso]

On 5/8/2023 at 8:13 PM, thehumantorch said:

Some collectors stored books by punching holes and putting them in binders.  Some collectors had their books bound into hardcover books which required stitching along the spine and I believe trimming.  Generally long before bags and boards and before condition was really important.  Times have changed    And to give it a grade I'm around 3.0 to 3.5.  I had a USA Comics 14 that was similar but lower grade come back 2.5

And this USA Comics you submitted got a green label, correct?

[thehumantorch]

On 5/8/2023 at 9:21 PM, L'Angelo Misterioso said:

And this USA Comics you submitted got a green label, correct?

No, 2.5 universal.  I believe the green label is for a book that appears high grade but has a serious defect.  My USA was  relatively low grade even without the holes.

And yes, your book has value.  Marvel Mysteries are tough to find and always worth owning.

[grendelbo]

3.0

Thanks for posting.

[zzutak]

On 5/8/2023 at 8:19 PM, scburdet said:

presumably reholdered b/c that doesn't look like the 1st gen slabs

  The original holder looked like this 

[Mars76]

3.5, and there's definitely a market for a book like this.

[Hiro]

Here's the link to the hole punch thread:

3 Ring Binder Hole Punched Comics