The Day After. The Brutal Betrayal of the fast flip. 3 3

[Rick2you2]

On 6/25/2023 at 11:17 PM, babsrocks31 said:

Rolled, that's such garbage! For a print or poster, I get it, but for OG art (heck, even a monoprint), rolled should never be the way!

I got a nice Tom Mandrake page that primarily features Zatanna and Phantom Stranger. If I wasn't always looking for a Mandrake Zatanna, I'd have told you to snag it.

I'll post mine in the Morlock, you post yours!

 

He did mention that when they are sent flat, they break. If the Italian post office is anything like their cars, he may have a point. 

[-m]

I had a page sent to me wrapped only in Glad Cling Wrap. Admittedly wrapped about 100 times, but still…

[The Voord]

Mike Mayhew once sent me an unused Pulse cover of Spidey and the Vulture (later used as an interior pin-up), which he air-mailed to me (I'm in the UK) in an oversized jiffy bag with no stiffener to help keep things rigid.  It was an eBay win at a great price.  Thankfully, the artwork arrived intact!

Edited June 27, 2023 by The Voord

[comix4fun]

On 6/27/2023 at 2:22 AM, The Voord said:

Mike Mayhew once sent me an unused Pulse cover of Spidey and the Vulture (later used as an interior pin-up), which he air-mailed to me (I'm in the UK) in an oversized jiffy bag with no stiffener to help keep things rigid.  It was an eBay win at a great price.  Thankfully, the artwork arrived intact!

If your stiffener keeps things rigid for more than 4 hours, contact your doctor. 

[The Voord]

On 6/27/2023 at 4:25 PM, comix4fun said:

If your stiffener keeps things rigid for more than 4 hours, contact your doctor. 

. . . or go into the 'Movie' business?

[babsrocks31]

On 6/27/2023 at 12:22 AM, The Voord said:

Mike Mayhew once sent me an unused Pulse cover of Spidey and the Vulture (later used as an interior pin-up), which he air-mailed to me (I'm in the UK) in an oversized jiffy bag with no stiffener to help keep things rigid.  It was an eBay win at a great price.  Thankfully, the artwork arrived intact!

I never know how to feel when artists themselves do this.

[comix4fun]

On 6/27/2023 at 2:49 PM, babsrocks31 said:

I never know how to feel when artists themselves do this.

One time Gene Conan sent me a Silver Age DD page in a priority mail box....folded over to fit. 

[babsrocks31]

On 6/27/2023 at 12:59 PM, comix4fun said:

One time Gene Conan sent me a Silver Age DD page in a priority mail box....folded over to fit. 

I find it especially strange when it's an expensive or classic artist... Like, shipping it that poorly suggests it has little value, and if it has little value why are you charging so much for it?

[grapeape]

On 6/27/2023 at 12:49 PM, babsrocks31 said:

I never know how to feel when artists themselves do this.

Angry. Fred Kida, or his son, folded up Spider-Man strips and sent them in a flimsy envelope. Love the artist but h8 the crimes against the strips.

 

[grapeape]

On 6/27/2023 at 12:59 PM, comix4fun said:

One time Gene Conan sent me a Silver Age DD page in a priority mail box....folded over to fit. 

I bet it was Mrs. Colan who packed it. Very sweet lady. 

[comix4fun]

On 6/28/2023 at 7:42 PM, grapeape said:

I bet it was Mrs. Colan who packed it. Very sweet lady. 

Likely was,  so much so that I didn’t even complain about it. They’d given fans so much over their lives. 

[Black_Adam]

On 6/27/2023 at 12:59 PM, comix4fun said:

One time Gene Conan sent me a Silver Age DD page in a priority mail box....folded over to fit. 

On a completely unrelated to comics note, I used to work at a hydraulics company and one of our customers ordered a custom made hose assembly for his steering system. A new shipper cut the hose into three pieces to get it to fit inside the shipping box and sent it to the customer.   

[comix4fun]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:13 PM, Black_Adam said:

On a completely unrelated to comics note, I used to work at a hydraulics company and one of our customers ordered a custom made hose assembly for his steering system. A new shipper cut the hose into three pieces to get it to fit inside the shipping box and sent it to the customer.   

I shouldn't laugh, but that's fricken funny. 

[Black_Adam]

On 6/30/2023 at 11:41 AM, comix4fun said:

I shouldn't laugh, but that's fricken funny. 

We all laughed pretty hard when the customer told us what he'd received. The shipper was pretty embarrassed and never heard the end of it.

[gumbydarnit]

Opps

Edited July 1, 2023 by gumbydarnit

[Unstoppablejayd]

On 6/25/2023 at 12:47 PM, comix4fun said:

Wait, you mean you would NOT create an (ill-advised and short-lived ) business based entirely on data-mining everyone you meet in the hobby to find out what they have and what they want so you can hold that information for a ransom "finders fee"?  Here I thought I was alone in wanting to avoid becoming a remora leeching on the underbelly of collector's hopes and dreams. 

You may be joking about this but I have heard of a collector that will ask for a fee to let someone know where a piece they may want is….

[MyNameIsLegion]

On 6/30/2023 at 11:49 PM, Unstoppablejayd said:

On 6/25/2023 at 11:47 AM, comix4fun said:

Wait, you mean you would NOT create an (ill-advised and short-lived ) business based entirely on data-mining everyone you meet in the hobby to find out what they have and what they want so you can hold that information for a ransom "finders fee"?  Here I thought I was alone in wanting to avoid becoming a remora leeching on the underbelly of collector's hopes and dreams. 

You may be joking about this but I have heard of a collector that will ask for a fee to let someone know where a piece they may want is….

This at least would be more transparent than the many storied instances, some more brazen than others, especially in the late 90's of collectors using their knowledge of what people had, and what people wanted to pry the art out of the hands of the unknown owner by whatever mean necessary solely to flip.  It was more frequent pre-auction house, CAF, etc. Heck, some "dealers" used to circulate marked up lists of art for sale via subscriber mail lists featuring art they did not own that was sitting on Burkey, Moy, or Horvitz website.  Once they caught a fish, they'd then purchase the art from the actual dealer. Some of those guys are still operating like that today to some degree when they can pull it off. 

[comix4fun]

On 6/30/2023 at 11:49 PM, Unstoppablejayd said:

You may be joking about this but I have heard of a collector that will ask for a fee to let someone know where a piece they may want is….

Oh no, not joking. People have done this for decades. Many in private, some as an actual business model. 
worse are the folks that data mine fellow collectors for what they have, want, and have or would pay for pieces then seek to acquire their wants purely to hold for ransom.  I’ve seen that over the years too. 
Everyone seems to bring their own personal issues to their collecting/business behavior. 

[The Voord]

On 7/1/2023 at 1:08 PM, comix4fun said:

Oh no, not joking. People have done this for decades. Many in private, some as an actual business model. 
worse are the folks that data mine fellow collectors for what they have, want, and have or would pay for pieces then seek to acquire their wants purely to hold for ransom.  I’ve seen that over the years too. 
Everyone seems to bring their own personal issues to their collecting/business behavior. 

I remember some years back someone offering a 'finder's fee' regarding art they were pursuing.  After giving the collector a gentle heads-up . . . that was the last I heard of my finder's fee, lol!  I didn't actually want a 'finder's fee', as I prefer to do do the gentlemanly thing, helping someone else out . . . believing that it works both ways on the (good) karma front. More recently, I helped a fellow-boardie acquire some art from a UK seller who didn't want to ship to the USA.  I was offered a fee for my help but declined, as  that's not how I work (just wanted my costs covered to the exact amount).  Point being . . . no cost should be involved in helping someone out, especially if no cost is involved sharing information.

Edited July 1, 2023 by The Voord

[KirbyJack]

I sold a Sal B Defenders page to a guy who posted a WTB here. His love of the subject matter seemed genuine. 
8 years later, I’m pleased to say that it’s still prominently displayed on his CAF with NFS status attached. 
He is the exact collector for this page.