Corvonie Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) Hi, I love this copy of #52 regardless, but am wondering if the staples affect grade (I’ve heard different things). The book has not been pressed or anything and the staple push definitely seems like a printing thing. thanks! Edited June 9, 2023 by Corvonie Added interior pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 To view the staples, can we get pics of the inside of the front and rea covers and centerfold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowGradeBronze Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Book has been the victim of mishandling and the weight of the interior has strained/torn the cover at the staples. Pics of damage will help with grading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilo2 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Agree with @marvelmaniac that we need pics of the staples and centerfold to get a better idea. That aside, it looks like a beautiful copy. Another hard one to find in high grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 Hi all, thank you I will post more pics when I am home tonight/tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Determining the cause of a popped staple is not an easy one, even CGC with all of their experience with this cannot be 100% sure if the issue is production or handling damage, it could also be caused by poor pressing. Grading the book without the popped staple... Blunted corners w/color loss, small/color breaking creases at top/bottom right corners, minor dust/sun shadows on rear cover (or just the lighting?). IMO, the book presents nicely, however, the color breaking corner creases prevent this book from reaching the VF 8.0 range, a Qualified grade would be in the FN/VF 7.0 - VF- 7.5 How much of a hit will the book take with the popped staple(s), depends on the severity, is the cover or centerfold loose, detached at one staple, detached at both staples, the hit could be anywhere from 1-3 points in grade. Worse case scenario, both the cover and centerfold are completely detached, VG+ 4.5 - VG/FN 5.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 Update new pics of centerfold and interiors and side view of staples 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 I don't have a ton of experience with this, but it looks like a classic case of "recessed staple" defined in CGC's book. A manufacturing-related issue characterized by staples centered on the spine, but below the bend. According to the same book, recessed staples range from 8.5-9.6. These seem pretty deeps, so start at the lower end. The way a recessed staple goes lower is if there is torn paper caused by the recess, then it can go down to 7.0. I don't see much tearing, but it's hard to see fine details. I'm a little concerned about this discoloration along the inner bottom edge of the front cover. They love to jump on a discoloration issue & ding a book below what you expect. I would say worst case scenario 6.5/7.0. Best case 7.5/8.0. Sometimes these big keys seems like they get the benefit of the doubt, so I would be more optimistic than pessimistic. Still waiting (a long time) for my copy to come home. Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilo2 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 I’d give it an 8.0 based on additional pics. Ver nice. Congrats! Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 10:21 PM, Nilo2 said: I’d give it an 8.0 based on additional pics. Ver nice. Congrats! The seller originally had it as an 8.0. It sat, I think because of the staples, for a while and I got it for an offer based on valuation as a 6.0. I think I was able to take that risk because I had previously bought books from this lot and so could interpret the photos differently and knew their books were generally very solid and definitely unpressed/treated (they’d been in a box for 40+ years). and yes I feel very lucky, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 if submitted to CGC this very tough black cover key would likely be at least a 7.0 and cross fingers it could go higher ! a good buy at 6.0 prices Corvonie and FoggyNelson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 FVF (7.0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY Roadkill Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Beautiful copy. I am relatively new at this, but I'd grade at 7.5-8.0, and be happy with this in my collection and make my kids worry about a misgrading when they have to deal with it when I'm gone. These old books, and especially the key issues are hard to find with such a nice cover. Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 THE GRADE IS IN and OH MAN! Looks like @Nilo2 was most confident in the 8.0. CGC obviously agreed the staple recession was from printing. On cloud nine with this grade! BeardedBubba and Nilo2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilo2 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Congrats on the grade. It’s a beautiful copy! Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
