Heritage Nov 16-19 Signature Auction 5 5

[comix4fun]

On 11/20/2023 at 12:57 PM, batman_fan said:

Schulz comes to mind when you say simplistic 

Why? Whatever Do You Mean?!?!

[Brian Peck]

On 11/20/2023 at 7:59 AM, delekkerste said:

It's a high price, but, I think Marcos only did this one storyline?

There was an amazing page from this issue available at the Society of Illustrators sale recently that I was thinking about picking up, but, when I went back a few minutes later, a well-known dealer had already come in and scooped it up for his inventory. IIRC, it was priced somewhere in the $2Ks (if I'm wrong, it was somewhere in the $3Ks) and was better than the $4200 page above. 

I didn't see the one at Society of Illustrators, but I did bid on the one in HA. I agree it is a great story by Pablo but with prices going up I will have to be satisfied with my splash from the issue.

 

[KirbyCollector]

On 11/20/2023 at 2:23 PM, comix4fun said:

Why? Whatever Do You Mean?!?!

I cannot stop laughing

Edited November 20, 2023 by KirbyCollector

[RBerman]

On 11/20/2023 at 10:46 AM, KirbyCollector said:

Just a believer that Sienkiewicz's NM work has some real staying power and this page will do very well for the seller in a few years. His choice to show Xavier "screaming" his psi-thoughts was always particularly striking to me, considering most other X-artists depicted what would arguably be an assault on one's mental state in a more gentle, "polite" manner (Cockrum comes to mind). I sometimes wonder if Bill's take on psi-activity influenced the interpretation of Xavier as a public menace in Logan, for example. I suppose I wasn't up to date on Bill's NM w/o NM values, in the end -- otherwise I would have taken a crack at this page.

There's one particular "screaming Psi-Xavier page" that I will definitely pursue if it's ever available. Glad to hear of others in the thread for whom his work had no appeal; less competition for the rest of us!

[tth2]

On 11/21/2023 at 2:34 AM, drdroom said:

On 11/20/2023 at 12:27 PM, artdealer said:

Granted, the price was a bit unexpected, but this is a cover for a Peter Rabbit comic from 1946, by Harrison Cady.

You might be cable to get Cady originals for less, but anything with Peter Rabbit brings a premium price.

Peter Rabbit is the Wolverine of rabbit characters.

HOPPT!!!

[Michael Browning]

I think that, despite the Liefeld Cap art selling so high, we are definitely not in the same market as we were in 2021. A friend had more than 60 pieces in the auction and he told me the end results were $50,000 lower than the HA estimates. Another friend was given a $6,000 estimate on a really early strip he consigned to HA and it only got $3,600 and he was very disappointed. He has three more coming up in the next Wednesday auction and he’s worried they’re not going to do well at all. I asked him last night if we plans to consign more to them and he was unsure. He has several more strips to auction, but he fears the low results of the big piece in this auction and the low bids on the ones in Wednesday’s auction means the other strips will sell even lower.

[Bronty]

oh sure.   I don't think anyone's arguing otherwise.   However art has held up pretty well overall, largely because it really didn't rocket upward in the first place to the same degree that copper drek did.     Didn't rocket to the moon = doesn't need to fall back down so far.

Edited November 21, 2023 by Bronty

[Phill the Governor]

One of my two pickups was admittedly more than I've ever spent on a single piece. I was at the collector summit a few weeks ago and had HA pull it to view in person. I looked at it for 5 seconds, snagged this pic, and said thank you and handed it back. Deep down I knew it was already a done deal: I was under her spell.

https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/story-page/lee-bermejo-joker-story-page-19-harley-quinn-original-art-dc-2008-/a/7342-95023.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

[stinkininkin]

I'm always interested in what the market is doing in regards to the Jim Lee art I'm associated with. A number of people commenting on how strong the Lee/Williams stuff was in this auction, but that Hush splash that went for 72k was definitely a six figure piece at the height of the market 18 months ago. The other Hush piece went low too IMHO. So the market HAS moved a bit.

[Bronty]

Sure.   I think the real question is what was that splash worth at the end of 2019, and what is it worth now?   You have to throw the whole covid era out. 

[bisquitodoom]

On 11/21/2023 at 12:15 PM, stinkininkin said:

I'm always interested in what the market is doing in regards to the Jim Lee art I'm associated with. A number of people commenting on how strong the Lee/Williams stuff was in this auction, but that Hush splash that went for 72k was definitely a six figure piece at the height of the market 18 months ago. The other Hush piece went low too IMHO. So the market HAS moved a bit.

I thought some of the X-Men art ended strong though.  The last page to X-Men 3 at $84K was much more than I would have guessed.  Even though it's got a decent team shot and is significant as the last Claremont page.  

[Rick2you2]

On 11/21/2023 at 10:25 AM, Michael Browning said:

I think that, despite the Liefeld Cap art selling so high, we are definitely not in the same market as we were in 2021. A friend had more than 60 pieces in the auction and he told me the end results were $50,000 lower than the HA estimates. Another friend was given a $6,000 estimate on a really early strip he consigned to HA and it only got $3,600 and he was very disappointed. He has three more coming up in the next Wednesday auction and he’s worried they’re not going to do well at all. I asked him last night if we plans to consign more to them and he was unsure. He has several more strips to auction, but he fears the low results of the big piece in this auction and the low bids on the ones in Wednesday’s auction means the other strips will sell even lower.

Which is an example of why I don’t expect a lot of top notch art being placed for sale until either the market turns up again or people decide they have to get out. 

[Carlo M]

And yet some pieces were really strong . I am surprised nobody mentioned the Portacio UXM DPS. No Wolverine and yet about 100k!  So glad Portacio is getting some love . He was a bit hit or miss on XF and UXM but the good pieces are gorgeous !
 

More generally , late  ‘80s and ‘90s art seems to be leading the way at the moment 

[cstojano]

I wonder if the 10k min to consign will revert back to the 5k level it was at, what, 6 months ago??

[bisquitodoom]

On 11/21/2023 at 5:08 PM, Carlo M said:

And yet some pieces were really strong . I am surprised nobody mentioned the Portacio UXM DPS. No Wolverine and yet about 100k!  So glad Portacio is getting some love . He was a bit hit or miss on XF and UXM but the good pieces are gorgeous !

Yeah, I thought that one was really nice as well.  His X-Factor and the first few issues of Uncanny were him at his absolute prime.  

I thought some of the price was because it was the 1st full Bishop issue.  Not technically a first appearance, but sometimes gets marketed like it is. 

 

[jjonahjameson11]

On 11/21/2023 at 6:17 PM, cstojano said:

I wonder if the 10k min to consign will revert back to the 5k level it was at, what, 6 months ago??

You’re saying There’s a $10K consignment value per item in order to be included in an HA Signature auction?

never heard this before 

[mtlevy1]

On 11/21/2023 at 3:30 PM, jjonahjameson11 said:

You’re saying There’s a $10K consignment value per item in order to be included in an HA Signature auction?

never heard this before 

Not per item - per batch

[jjonahjameson11]

On 11/21/2023 at 7:21 PM, mtlevy1 said:

Not per item - per batch

Thanks for the clarification.  Didn’t realize HA was doing this

[Brian Peck]

Market might be cooling, but I saw a number of pieces related to ones I have in my collection going for some strong prices. Not Kirby, Romita or Lee  pages.

[tth2]

On 11/21/2023 at 11:25 PM, Michael Browning said:

I think that, despite the Liefeld Cap art selling so high, we are definitely not in the same market as we were in 2021. A friend had more than 60 pieces in the auction and he told me the end results were $50,000 lower than the HA estimates. Another friend was given a $6,000 estimate on a really early strip he consigned to HA and it only got $3,600 and he was very disappointed. He has three more coming up in the next Wednesday auction and he’s worried they’re not going to do well at all. I asked him last night if we plans to consign more to them and he was unsure. He has several more strips to auction, but he fears the low results of the big piece in this auction and the low bids on the ones in Wednesday’s auction means the other strips will sell even lower.

Without knowing how realistic the estimates were, it's hard to judge whether your friends should really be disappointed or not.  Did they make a decent return on their original purchase price?