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[ThrashingZero]

I purchased a few books off eBay, that I submitted and they came back restored. I admit this was my own fault. The seller claims his grades are accurate, I'm talking 9.0+  when graded restored books came back 7.0 - 8.0. he is defending his grade by saying that if you submit a book without disclosing the restoration CGC frowns upon it and penalizes you by grading lower for it? Is this true? Or is this guy just taking every route to cover himself? 

[Lightning55]

Definitely the Seller's opinion, unsubstantiated. I don't think there is a bias on the grade whether you disclose resto or not. The grade is the grade.

He's grasping at straws. 

[Nick Furious]

On 3/9/2024 at 6:08 PM, ThrashingZero said:

if you submit a book without disclosing the restoration CGC frowns upon it and penalizes you by grading lower for it

That's absurd.  The book is the same grade with or without the submitter's knowledge of restoration.  Did the seller note restoration on the Ebay listings?  Care to name the seller?  Others here may have history with them.

[Lazyboy]

How many people have ever disclosed restoration on books they've submitted to CGC? Probably a tiny number, whose books were not graded any more favorably than everyone else's books.

The seller already screwed you, now he's screwing with you.

[RockMyAmadeus]

On 3/9/2024 at 4:08 PM, ThrashingZero said:

Or is this guy just taking every route to cover himself? 

 

[CGC Mike]

On 3/9/2024 at 7:08 PM, ThrashingZero said:

I purchased a few books off eBay, that I submitted and they came back restored. I admit this was my own fault. The seller claims his grades are accurate, I'm talking 9.0+  when graded restored books came back 7.0 - 8.0. he is defending his grade by saying that if you submit a book without disclosing the restoration CGC frowns upon it and penalizes you by grading lower for it? Is this true? Or is this guy just taking every route to cover himself? 

Hi

We do not penalize for any non disclosure of restored books.  The screenshot you posted contains wrong information.

Mike

[Lightning55]

On 3/9/2024 at 8:45 PM, Nick Furious said:

Did the seller note restoration on the Ebay listings?

This

[Point Five]

Oh definitely, CGC penalized you for not mentioning the restoration. Yeah, that's the ticket.  

It's the same with page quality. If you don't mention brittle pages, CGC will grade your book Extra Brittle. 

 

[The Lions Den]

On 3/9/2024 at 7:08 PM, ThrashingZero said:

I purchased a few books off eBay, that I submitted and they came back restored. I admit this was my own fault. The seller claims his grades are accurate, I'm talking 9.0+  when graded restored books came back 7.0 - 8.0. he is defending his grade by saying that if you submit a book without disclosing the restoration CGC frowns upon it and penalizes you by grading lower for it? Is this true? Or is this guy just taking every route to cover himself? 

[The Lions Den]

On 3/9/2024 at 7:08 PM, ThrashingZero said:

I purchased a few books off eBay, that I submitted and they came back restored. I admit this was my own fault. The seller claims his grades are accurate, I'm talking 9.0+  when graded restored books came back 7.0 - 8.0. he is defending his grade by saying that if you submit a book without disclosing the restoration CGC frowns upon it and penalizes you by grading lower for it? Is this true? Or is this guy just taking every route to cover himself? 

The reality is that CGC graders are advised to ignore any restoration when grading in order to arrive at a (hopefully) more impartial grade. So not only is the above statement incorrect, it's actually the complete opposite of what usually takes place... 

[Dick Pontoon]

Can you share some pictures of the books and the seller's ebay ID?

[JollyComics]

[thehumantorch]

Was it kellyssuperheroes?

[revat]

If you accidentally submit the book as “Supermann” instead of Superman it comes back from cgc labeled as “Superpro”

Edited March 10 by revat

[Hulksdaddy1]

Seller is full of 

 

Edited March 10 by Hulksdaddy1

[Dick Pontoon]

On 3/10/2024 at 1:16 PM, thehumantorch said:

Was it kellyssuperheroes?

I doubt it. In cases like these, part of Danny's m.o. is to feign ignorance and then cheerfully take the return and issue the refund. He wouldn't come up with a ridiculous ploy blaming the submitter for undisclosed resto.

[shadroch]

On 3/9/2024 at 9:49 PM, Point Five said:

Oh definitely, CGC penalized you for not mentioning the restoration. Yeah, that's the ticket.  

It's the same with page quality. If you don't mention brittle pages, CGC will grade your book Extra Brittle. 

 

If you provide them with grades and paper quality, it certainly makes their job easier.