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I recently acquired a copy of The Batgirl Adventures #12, known for being Harley Quinn's first appearance. However, upon receiving the grading, I was surprised by the low score assigned (6.5) compared to other comics with the same grading.

I've attached photos of my comic and another with the same grading but in conditions I consider inferior. My copy is in excellent condition, and after consulting with an expert, they believe it should have received an 8.5 instead of the awarded 6.5.

My Comic photo:

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Other Comic photos whit 6.5,  Zoom In to Uncover the Differences in Comic Conditions

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Questions for the community:

  1. Has anyone experienced similar situations?
  2. What could be the grading company's criteria that affected the rating?
  3. Any advice on how to address this situation and secure a fair review?

I appreciate any comments, experiences, or advice you can share. Thank you in advance!

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On 3/15/2024 at 3:26 PM, Ryan. said:

That spine is rough. 6.5 looks right.

Are you looking at the top 2 pictures? I believe the OP is saying his copy (top 2 pictures) looks way better than the copy on the bottom, which is not his and looks like a 6.5.

I can't really tell much from the top 2 photos, they're too small and have heavy reflections.

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@AleLuque  We will need better scans in order to see the damage or lack thereof on your copy.

I would almost be predicting a subscription crease unless the spine is wrecked like the other example.

 

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I went to look at the grader's notes.  I was expecting the cover to be detached at a staple, but nothing in the notes like that.  The grading does seem a little harsh.

light bends to cover
light creasing to cover
light spine stress lines to cover

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On 3/15/2024 at 2:57 PM, Engr62 said:

I went to look at the grader's notes.  I was expecting the cover to be detached at a staple, but nothing in the notes like that.  The grading does seem a little harsh.

light bends to cover
light creasing to cover
light spine stress lines to cover

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I have some books coming back from CGC that are like the one above. Just got absolutely hammered.

Raw books that I bought years ago from a well-respected dealer. He graded them VF/NM to NM-, which I thought was spot on.

All came back 7.5 or less. With identical graders notes. 

:tonofbricks:

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On 3/15/2024 at 4:12 PM, Pontoon said:

Are you looking at the top 2 pictures? I believe the OP is saying his copy (top 2 pictures) looks way better than the copy on the bottom, which is not his and looks like a 6.5.

I can't really tell much from the top 2 photos, they're too small and have heavy reflections.

Nope, I was looking at the wrong pictures. 

Based on the newly posted scans, the book does look undergraded.

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Welcome, and yep. Undergraded. Crack that thing and sell it raw. I've seen more than enough evidence to show that a lot of slabs are now selling for raw prices.

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On 3/15/2024 at 2:46 PM, seanfingh said:

I would almost be predicting a subscription crease unless the spine is wrecked like the other example.

Would a sub-crease be classified as 'light creasing' if it doesn't break color? Assuming a sub-crease would be the length of the book, do they not really allude to a crease being minimal or extraordinarily long? I'm asking because I have no idea if they call out sub-creases or just classify them generically.

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