Point Five's 5th Annual Grading Contest: FINAL RESULTS 1 1

[Point Five]

Final Results:   

All the guys at the top racked up some crazy impressive numbers for sure... but we have a winner.

Congratulations to @grendelbo, winner of Point Five's 5th Annual Grading Contest!!!    

Honorable mention to @jbpez and @TheTallGuy, taking the silver and bronze slots respectively!!!

Cheers all!!!  
 

[Point Five]

Round 4 Grade Distributions:

Book 11: Fight Comics #27: CGC 4.0q

Book 12: True Love Pictorial #6: CGC 3.0

Book 13: Crime Mysteries #14: CGC 6.0

Book 14: Superman #17: CGC 2.5
 

 

Edited March 16 by Point Five

[Point Five]

Don't forget to visit the Point Five's 5th Annual Grading Contest Gift Shop!

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Battlefront #15 / $5000

 

[Point Five]

Aaaaand I think that's all from me. Night all! 

 

[scburdet]

No pink in my scoring line, I'll take consistently mediocre.

[grendelbo]

Thanks. It's my privilege to contribute to these boards and particularly PGM. 

 

[grendelbo]

Remember, at @Point Five's grading announcement I offered a $20 PayPal prize to 2nd place. @jbpez I'll PM you for some info on how to get this too you. Nice grading all.

I appreciate the contest @Point Five. Fun and informal. GA isn't my collecting focus but I appreciate seeing these books. I also appreciate the mid to low-grade offerings. That's my forte. Anything VF or higher is tough through pics alone.

I had to put my daughter's (mine) dog down this week. Her epilepsy caught up with her. The boards and this contest in particular have really been a much needed way to relax and have fun.

Thanks, John.

 

[jcjames]

On 3/15/2024 at 7:22 PM, Point Five said:

 

Congratulations to @grendelbo, winner of Point Five's 5th Annual Grading Contest!!!    

Honorable mention to @jbpez and @TheTallGuy, taking the silver and bronze slots respectively!!!

Cheers all!!!  

Those guys KNOW GA low/midgrade grading! 

[Point Five]

Sorry... one more quick thank you as the end credits roll.

My thanks as always to @sckao, who set up the Excel scoring sheet that I use for these contests back in 2020. I would not be able to program this scoring (or do it manually) to save my life. Not sure if he's still around here but his kindness is not forgotten. Thanks, Shin!

 

[Darwination]

Remarkable grading skills up top there, gentlemen

Happy with the bullseyes but would happily trade one or two to erase the four ones and the minus one. Even if I tease a bit around here about these blue boxes, I do like learning the skill

 

[paqart]

On 3/15/2024 at 10:22 PM, Point Five said:

Final Results:   

All the guys at the top racked up some crazy impressive numbers for sure... but we have a winner.

Congratulations to @grendelbo, winner of Point Five's 5th Annual Grading Contest!!!    

Honorable mention to @jbpez and @TheTallGuy, taking the silver and bronze slots respectively!!!

Cheers all!!!  
 

I got a DM saying my grades were recorded for the last round, but they didn't make it to this spreadsheet. I didn't win, but did pick up 10 points on the last round, for a final score of 38, tying for 16th place.

Edited March 16 by paqart

[grendelbo]

I need sleep but one last thing.

Maybe @zzutakwill chime in tomorrow with some means and modes, but until then I'll leave his wise words which are always great to read and figure after a contest. 

 

So, just for kicks, recalculate your total Contest #3 score using "signed deltas": -2 for your guess being 2 grade increments too low, -1 for your guess being 1 grade increment too low, 0 for a bullseye, +1 for your guess being 1 grade increment too high, +2 for your guess being 2 grade increments too high, and so on.  What's your cumulative 20-book tally now?  Did the errors to the low side and high side more or less balance out?  Or is your tally way negative or way positive (in which case you're consistently being too strict or too lenient with your condition assessments)?

Chances are your score using signed deltas will be much smaller than your score using absolute/unsigned deltas.  If that's the case, your errors are balancing out (which is exactly what Ed predicted would happen for a decent grader).  Here's an example using my own Round 1+2+3+4 guesses (20 books):

 

  5 Bullseyes = 0

  3 times my guess was one grade increment too low = -3

  7 times my guess was one grade increment too high = +7

  3 times my guess was two grade increments too low = -6

  2 times my guess was two grade increments too high = +4

 My total signed delta score would be 0 - 3 + 7 - 6 + 4 = +2 for the 20-book challenge.  That's an average error of one-tenth of one grade increment (0.1).    Compare that to my total absolute/unsigned delta score (my actual contest score) of 20, or an average error of one grade increment per book.  This is exactly what Ed Jaster predicted would happen for a person whose grading standards are essentially in line with CGC's.

 

[Matt1982]

Here are my grade increments:

Bull - 5

Two increments too low - 3

One increment too low - 2

One increment too high - 2

Two increments too high - 1

Five increments too high - 1 (Stupid Battlefront I had a 5.0 and it was 2.5)

So I pulled 0 - 6 - 2 + 2 +2 +5 = +1

So I'm not sure that logic works where I have one outlier offsetting other bad grades, but in your case GB where you're never more than two off it probably makes sense.

[grendelbo]

On 3/15/2024 at 11:56 PM, Matt1982 said:

Here are my grade increments:

Bull - 5

Two increments too low - 3

One increment too low - 2

One increment too high - 2

Two increments too high - 1

Five increments too high - 1 (Stupid Battlefront I had a 5.0 and it was 2.5)

So I pulled 0 - 6 - 2 + 2 +2 +5 = +1

So I'm not sure that logic works where I have one outlier offsetting other bad grades, but in your case GB where you're never more than two off it probably makes sense.

[Get Marwood & I]

@AJD 

[AJD]

On 3/16/2024 at 7:10 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

@AJD 

"In the event of a tie the order shall be decided by the inverse of the distance of the domicile of the contestant from the South Pole."

I don't make the rules mate.

Edited March 16 by AJD

[Point Five]

On 3/15/2024 at 11:45 PM, paqart said:

I got a DM saying my grades were recorded for the last round, but they didn't make it to this spreadsheet. I didn't win, but did pick up 10 points on the last round, for a final score of 38, tying for 16th place.

I do see your last four grades in the spreadsheet in the top post... 3, 3, 1, 3. Nothing has changed since I posted the chart last night. Check again?

Happy to make the fix if I screwed something up (always possible) but it looks right to me.  

 

[universal soldier]

On 3/16/2024 at 12:01 AM, grendelbo said:

I need sleep but one last thing.

Maybe @zzutakwill chime in tomorrow with some means and modes, but until then I'll leave his wise words which are always great to read and figure after a contest. 

 

So, just for kicks, recalculate your total Contest #3 score using "signed deltas": -2 for your guess being 2 grade increments too low, -1 for your guess being 1 grade increment too low, 0 for a bullseye, +1 for your guess being 1 grade increment too high, +2 for your guess being 2 grade increments too high, and so on.  What's your cumulative 20-book tally now?  Did the errors to the low side and high side more or less balance out?  Or is your tally way negative or way positive (in which case you're consistently being too strict or too lenient with your condition assessments)?

Chances are your score using signed deltas will be much smaller than your score using absolute/unsigned deltas.  If that's the case, your errors are balancing out (which is exactly what Ed predicted would happen for a decent grader).  Here's an example using my own Round 1+2+3+4 guesses (20 books):

 

  5 Bullseyes = 0

  3 times my guess was one grade increment too low = -3

  7 times my guess was one grade increment too high = +7

  3 times my guess was two grade increments too low = -6

  2 times my guess was two grade increments too high = +4

 My total signed delta score would be 0 - 3 + 7 - 6 + 4 = +2 for the 20-book challenge.  That's an average error of one-tenth of one grade increment (0.1).    Compare that to my total absolute/unsigned delta score (my actual contest score) of 20, or an average error of one grade increment per book.  This is exactly what Ed Jaster predicted would happen for a person whose grading standards are essentially in line with CGC's.

 

For me I ended up dead even? I assume one extra point for each additonal grade miss.

My takeaway is that I'm in the ballpark (-1, 0, +1) a majority of the time and when I whiff, I whiff hard 

 

  4 Bullseyes = 0

  6 times my guess was one grade increment too low = -6

  1 times my guess was one grade increment too high = +1

  1 times my guess was two grade increments too low = -2

  0 times my guess was two grade increments too high = 0

  1 times my guess was three grade increments too high = +3

  1 times my guess was four grade increments too high = +4

 

Thanks @Point Five for a great contest! 

[Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice]

  The final result does not surprise me......I missed this but look forward to participating sometime in the future.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 3/16/2024 at 2:49 AM, Point Five said:

Sorry... one more quick thank you as the end credits roll.

My thanks as always to @sckao, who set up the Excel scoring sheet that I use for these contests back in 2020. I would not be able to program this scoring (or do it manually) to save my life. Not sure if he's still around here but his kindness is not forgotten. Thanks, Shin!

 

Well said.

Jon, thanks for running this contest again. It puts a smile on my face every time and I appreciate all the effort you go to as, I'm sure, do all the players. Well done mate. Hopefully see you next time