Corvonie Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) Hi, Looking for a grade on this copy of FF 45 that's just arrived for grading - so there won't be long to wait for it to come in! Biggest question for me here is the effect of the crease BRFC and the kind of dappled discoloration on the inside front cover. Thanks, as always, for your time and expertise! Edited April 5 by Corvonie 1950's war comics and TheComicsPreacher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelmaniac Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Crease at the top right edge, color breaking crease at lower right edge/corner, vertical color breaking crease along spine under lower staple, staples and cover wrap are off center, minor spine roll. IMO... 7.0 FINE/VERY FINE (FN/VF): Back to Top An above-average copy that shows minor wear but is still relatively flat and clean with outstanding eye appeal. A small accumulation of minor bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor cover wear beginning to show, possibly including minor creases. Corners may be blunted. Inks are generally bright with a moderate reduction in reflectivity. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. Minor foxing. The slightest spine roll may be present, as well as a possible moderate color break. Staples may show some discoloration. Slight staple tears and a small accumulation of light stress lines may be present. Slight rust migration. Paper is cream to tan. Centerfold is mostly secure. Minor interior tears at the margin may be present. Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 On 3/29/2024 at 12:34 PM, marvelmaniac said: Crease at the top right edge, color breaking crease at lower right edge/corner, vertical color breaking crease along spine under lower staple, staples and cover wrap are off center, minor spine roll. IMO... 7.0 FINE/VERY FINE (FN/VF): Back to Top An above-average copy that shows minor wear but is still relatively flat and clean with outstanding eye appeal. A small accumulation of minor bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor cover wear beginning to show, possibly including minor creases. Corners may be blunted. Inks are generally bright with a moderate reduction in reflectivity. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. Minor foxing. The slightest spine roll may be present, as well as a possible moderate color break. Staples may show some discoloration. Slight staple tears and a small accumulation of light stress lines may be present. Slight rust migration. Paper is cream to tan. Centerfold is mostly secure. Minor interior tears at the margin may be present. Wow, reading the definition, I get it - but I personally have never in my life seen a 7.0 that looks like this. So interesting how different things combine to make a grade. We'll see! Thank you for the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoggyNelson Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 F/VF cond👍 Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 at least 7.0 hopefully better Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 (edited) Seems like a consensus is building and this is a great lesson for me - post em here BEFORE I decide to send them out. It’s such a pretty copy I think I overlooked some flaws. When this book likely comes back under an 8.5, it’ll probably get cracked so I can enjoy it again, how I prefer to (I usually only slab books I intend to sell). I’ll of course share here when it comes back, and thank you all for your time and insight! Edited March 30 by Corvonie marvelmaniac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scburdet Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 7.5, maybe 8.0. I have a book from the same era with a pretty mauled corner that still pulled a 7.5. I think this is at least as nice. Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmattioli86 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I didn’t see anyone mention foxing, but my eyes are seeing it. So I would imagine with the imperfections mentioned you are looking at the 7.0 range (f/vf) this is easily my favorite FF book of the whole run. Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars76 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 7.5 Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 7.0/7.5 Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 Update - the lovely folks at CGC added an 8.5 pre-screen to my order for me. So this one will likely be coming back raw and I won’t have to risk damaging it by cracking it. Thank you to everyone here for the insight and advice, and I’ll of course update here when it comes back or gets rejected during pre-screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lninefingers Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I like it to do better than a 7.0, but I think that color breaking crease on the front cover disqualifies from getting to an 8.5. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 (edited) Rejected at an 8.5 during pre-screening, so this lovely mid-high-grade copy gets to stay unslabbed for me to enjoy. Thanks everyone! Grader's notes were: crease right bottom of front cover spine stress lines Edited April 5 by Corvonie Point Five and scburdet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheComicsPreacher Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/5/2024 at 10:54 AM, Corvonie said: Rejected at an 8.5 during pre-screening, so this lovely mid-high-grade copy gets to stay unslabbed for me to enjoy. Thanks everyone! Grader's notes were: crease right bottom of front cover spine stress lines Ya buttttt look at dem Purps! keep that one for sure Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC33 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Discoloration on interior covers indicates some sort of staining or light water contact etc. That mixed with the bottom right crease to the front cover puts it in the 5.5 to 6.5 category, but it does show very nice for a book in that grade range. Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/1/2024 at 1:55 PM, Corvonie said: Update - the lovely folks at CGC added an 8.5 pre-screen to my order for me. So this one will likely be coming back raw and I won’t have to risk damaging it by cracking it. Thank you to everyone here for the insight and advice, and I’ll of course update here when it comes back or gets rejected during pre-screen. Could you explain to me how this works ...I don't understand this.....You submitted the book with a pre-screen...telling CGC don't slab it if it's not at least a 8.5 ? ....If that is the case i suppose you still pay a certain amount for a pre-screen ? If so ...how is it determined how much you pay for a pre-screen ? If you don't mind me asking.......If you'd rather not get into it I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 4/8/2024 at 7:40 AM, Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice said: Could you explain to me how this works ...I don't understand this.....You submitted the book with a pre-screen...telling CGC don't slab it if it's not at least a 8.5 ? ....If that is the case i suppose you still pay a certain amount for a pre-screen ? If so ...how is it determined how much you pay for a pre-screen ? If you don't mind me asking.......If you'd rather not get into it I understand. Since no one else has responded to you in the past 3 days, here are CGC's prescreen details from the Services & Fees page: Grade PreScreen Only encapsulate comic books or magazines that reach your minimum grade. There is no minimum submission requirement to select Grade PreScreen. Tier fee OR $9 per reject Point Five and Corvonie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Thank You for that.............. Corvonie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 4/11/2024 at 3:50 AM, MBFan said: Since no one else has responded to you in the past 3 days, here are CGC's prescreen details from the Services & Fees page: Grade PreScreen Only encapsulate comic books or magazines that reach your minimum grade. There is no minimum submission requirement to select Grade PreScreen. Tier fee OR $9 per reject thank you Corvonie and MBFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvonie Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 On 4/11/2024 at 11:44 AM, Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice said: Thank You for that.............. Hey! So sorry I didn't catch this before others did. so yeah, you can basically tell them not to slab it if it doesn't reach a certain grade. It prolongs the grading process sometimes, but if you're like me and you really only slab to sell or if they're so high grade you don't want to mess them up, it's a great service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
